Good afternoon, everypony. I'm here to talk to you about something near and dear to my heart: little Derpy Hooves. This young mare needs love, hugs, and 3 square muffins a day to stay healthy, but she can't do it alone. She needs your help. There's some rumbling and shaking going on, and the bottom line is that our favorite mailmare is in trouble. Here, have a better petition than the one that was up before.
Show her how much you care by purchasing any one of the many awesome, stylish, and high quality shirts from We Love Fine. Act quickly. Act today! This may be your very last chance to score yourself a Derpy shirt, so please. Don't wait.
Dollars speak louder than words. So show Derpy how much we love her, and keep her smiling for all of us.
Quick Edit: Derpy has been renamed on Welovefine to Ditzy and Simply "pony cutie mark".
398 kommentaari:
DERPY!!! <3
VastaKustutaI will definitely support our dear Derpy.
VastaKustutaMust. Buy. Shirt
VastaKustutawell love you Derpy
VastaKustutaI fail to see WHY she wouldn't be called Derpy?
VastaKustutaSquare muffins? That doesn't seem physically possible.
VastaKustutaDone and done.
VastaKustutaWhy are you being so vague? Is Hasbro considering changing the name or getting rid of Derpy altogether or something?
VastaKustutaI acctually bought a shirt yesterday...
VastaKustutaQuick question to any Europeans who have ordered from WLF in the past; how long did they take to arrive and were there any additional shipping fees beyond what it says on the website?
VastaKustutaI've asked before in other places but never got a response :P
@The Invincible
VastaKustutaThe Japanese have square watermelons, so maybe the muffins are made in a similar way.
Also, I very much doubt Derpy will get such a significant scene or even be adressed by name in the show again, so I think a petition to change the name at all is pointless and stupid.
VastaKustuta*hugs Derpy*
VastaKustutaWe will not let the hater bronies take her away from us!
Number of votes rose by 54 (from 192 to 246) by the time I signed.
VastaKustutaGo, Derpy!!!
never! haha i signed the other one
VastaKustuta@Marcoooootje1
VastaKustuta"Haters" cannot be Bronies, since Bronies love and tolerate.
Hmm. Any thoughts, guys? Is Hasbro seriously considering axing the "Derpy" name?
VastaKustuta@Rasrap Smurf
VastaKustutaI ordered a shirt from them January 3rd, they shipped it on Thursday 19th, and it arrived today.
what is this? a welovefine commercial?
VastaKustutaCheck it: Derpy herself signed it.
VastaKustutaI didn't even read any of this. Once I saw that Derpy needed my help, I signed right away. God speed Derpy, God speed.
VastaKustuta@CityFlyer502
VastaKustutaI haven't heard anything about it. This may be a knee jerk reaction against the few people who claimed that Depry was offensive in some way.
Oh, and I had to pay an additional £11.51 for shipping and handling.
VastaKustutaSigning an online petition to counteract an online petition which wouldn't have made any difference as the toy's been celled Derpy for months now?
VastaKustutaI'll pass.
@MyBoyJ
VastaKustutaDerpy, not Depry. I am a blasphemer.
@Kinrah @Kinrah
VastaKustutaThanks :)
@FamusJamus
VastaKustutaI don't think there are any Derpy toys...
this is ridiculous people need to stop being so damn oversensitive about everything
VastaKustuta@CityFlyer502
VastaKustutaHasbro is considering this solely on the large amounts of hate mail they've recieved about how 'Mentally deficient people are not derps!' and 'Derpy is slang for retarded!'
Honestly, I think that Tabitha's little voice derp is partially responsible.
Hoo boy, I hate to be a neighsayer, but... (you knew there was a but coming, didn't you?)
VastaKustutaWhile I fully agree with the sentiment of the anti-petition petition, I'm not terribly happy with how the pro-Derpy one is worded. Mainly the part that directly calls out to the other one and says "Just relax and unclench your butthole people, jeese." (Poor Jesse, why is he being singled out?)
Look, Derpy _is_ Derpy, and always shall be that way to me. But if you're trying to convince the Powers That Be that Derpy should stay Derpy, including insulting lines like that, even if they aren't being directed at the people who the petition is going to be sent to, just comes across wrong; it is at best superfluous, and at worst insulting.
Get rid of that last line of the petition, and I'll gladly sign it. Otherwise, while I fully support what the petition is trying to get across, I really don't want my name attached to it.
@Rasrap Smurf
VastaKustutaI think it took mine about 2 weeks to be delivered. Can't say for sure, it was two months ago. And, well, there's a high price shipping obviously, but that's still affordable. Anyway, do your things and go just before you pay for it, you'll see the price :p
And for the petition, I can't see why anybody would find this offensive.. Unless they're overmoralized puritans (does that exist ?). There was goofy character in all show for about.. forever. Love & Tolerate anyway ! :D
I refreshed literally 10 seconds after I got on the site, and the signature rate is friggin skyrocketing. No worries here.
VastaKustutaDerpy looks adorable in that picture.
VastaKustutaI think she should stay named Derpy, had she been not as popular I wouldn't have minded too much. ( Derpy could have always been a nickname)
By now though I think it's stuck, she's become one of our icons and should not be changed.
Here's hoping it gets all the signatures they need after all you don't want to make Derpy sad now...do you?
Vivat Derpy!
VastaKustutaAnd I happen to have an unused giftcard from Christmas worth a hundred dollars. So I might consider one of these shirts.
I'm calling it now: Cash Grab. Then again, Derpy Shirt.
VastaKustutaSigned and signed. :) Long live Derpy Hooves!
VastaKustuta...and the petition link is gone.
VastaKustuta@Laurence Brown i think he means as in Geez.. not jesse
VastaKustutaDerpy in danger!? OH NOES
VastaKustutaIs it just me, or is the petition link gone?
VastaKustutathe petition wasn't written too well and was a bit immature sounding
VastaKustutaI actually just bought the new Derpy shirt Tuesday.
VastaKustutaSad Derpy makes meh sad, consider this motherfucker signed.
VastaKustutaGuys here's the link
VastaKustutahttp://www.change.org/petitions/hasbro-keep-derpy-named-derpy
Guys, this is actually serious. Exactly why you can read here:
VastaKustutahttp://derpyhoovesnews.com/hasbro-pressuring-welovefine-to-remove-derpy-merchandise/
I was on a hiatus from buying pony merch but this is a really big deal.
@Kinrah
VastaKustutaI think we just accidentally the entire petition.
Signed before the link vanished. It's a shame that Hasbro would give us this nod to the fandom, and suddenly a bunch of people turn around and bite their heads off for it. Not cool.
Derpy petitions? Take your pick:
VastaKustutahttp://www.change.org/petitions#search/derpy
Make up your mind internet!
VastaKustutaFirst Derpy's in trouble, then Seth proclaims that it blew over and everything's fine, now she's in trouble again, this time severe enough to warrant a "support Derpy" post!
What the heck is going on, and also, what is it that everyone is signing, the only link in this post is to WeLoveFine.
And I'm pretty sure we can just forget right now about any more fan inclusion from Hasbro after the stink this made.
I don't understand how Derpy is in trouble. Is there some link I'm overlooking, or something? This all seems a little vague.
VastaKustutaI highly doubt that Derpy is "in trouble" in any way. The anti-Derpy petition seems to be the work of trolls or at least people who hate our community.
VastaKustuta@MyBoyJ Really? I thought there was... Ah well.
VastaKustutaIt's still an online petition though. Then have those ever done anything? :P
This has gotten out of hand. I can't believe people are getting this angry over Derpy because *they* defined it to mean something offensive. Derpy never has and never will have anything to do with anypony's mental capabilities.
VastaKustutaRant over..
Lurk ended..
Petition signed..
T-shirt bought.. (it was about time I did anyway)
I'm confused by everything in this article, so I'm just going to ignore it.
VastaKustutaNO.
VastaKustutaDerpy's name must not change.
There's nothing wrong with it, it's not offensive, and the people who ARE getting offended are being excessively uptight!
I signed, and so should everyone.
@FamusJamus
VastaKustutaAt least there are no official Derpy toys. You may have seen custom ones made by fans.
@Zoot101
VastaKustutaYeah, Last Roundup vanishes from iTunes and now this. It looks like they are erasing derpy from existence. Nice job butthurt squadron! I hope it was worth it.
I dont get this, "Dollars speak louder than words" what the hell? what is the point asking to buy a shirt from that particular website?
VastaKustuta"derpy is in troube", "This young mare needs love, hugs" ...this is stupid..
Was the link to the petition just removed? I don't see it anymore.
VastaKustutaI did sign it by the way.
I lose track of which way the wind is supposedly blowing day to day. So... now there *is* a significant anti-Derpy movement somewhere?
VastaKustutaAh well. I honestly wash my hands of the whole thing. I love Derpy, I loved her appearance. People who are making a big deal out of it are just going to make her go away entirely when it comes to new appearances or speaking lines for her, not get her successfully changed to whatever it is they want.
But at the end of the day, such appearances make up 01% of the show's content. People will still draw Derpy until the end of fandom, and still name her that. She's not going anywhere, regardless of the lack of shout-outs. I suspect any Derpy toys or Derpy products beyond what's already out there wouldn't show up until the property gets licensed for collector merchandise anyway, and I doubt that market would be scared off by some busybodies manufacturing false outrage.
Death to Derpy. I hope Hasbro erases her from the canon. I hope Studio B never puts her in a episode again. All her merch should be burned. She totally sucks, srsly.
VastaKustutaAnd while I'm at it....
I MUST BE IN QUAHOG, 'CUZ ALL I SEE IS A BUNCH OF HICKS!!!!
Wish I had known about this a couple hours earlier. I already put in a order today for a Fluttershy shirt.
VastaKustuta@MyBoyJ Nah, I was thinking of a post on here about somepony's name and thought it was Derpy's.
VastaKustutaKnowing me, it was probably a Lyra/Heartstrings blindbag one.
You know, I need to read things more thouroughly, the petitions intentions were good but it was orased rather badly..
VastaKustutaAre people actually taking the anti-derpy petition seriously?
VastaKustutaIt's like 50 signatures. And look at the names of the people signing it.
Yeah, I'm sure Hasbro is gonna take notice when they see that Dicks Dicks et al. are offended.
There's no way the petition has anything to do with this. Either DerpyHooves's source is wrong/lying or Hasbro is preemptively trying to be politically correct.
@mycutiemarkisagun ... Why? ... Just... WHY?!
VastaKustutaI just purchased two Derpy shirts. I don't want to see one of my favorite ponies be taken away from us! ( and we may as well call it now, she's one of the first things they did to show that they acknowledge us! She's Iconic to the Brony Community! )
VastaKustutaNow, I am totally confused. Is there a movement to get rid of her or what? Is this for real? We named this pony all the way back in Season 1 and now that it's official, people are getting all fired up? If Hasbro does a complete 180 on us because of all of this, I would not be surprised.
VastaKustutaSo wait what i understand is that they are trying to either change her name or not use her in any episodes because people were offended? what about Ed from ed edd n eddy he was always like that i didnt see the post so somebody please let me know whats going on so i can ne caught up with this
VastaKustutaThe petition is past 500! Come on guys, we can do it!
VastaKustutaI think Ditzy Doo would be an infinitely better name.
VastaKustutaDerpy is a nickname. Not a name.
(Repeat the above sentence several thousand times and you'll come to a realization that Derpy is a nickname)
Petitioning for them to keep the name Derpy is pointless as all it could potentially do is have them seal her name permanently as Derpy, giving her fairly low coverage in any potential for future episodes.
Please. Just leave it as a nickname.
@Lupus Albus
VastaKustutaI just saw that petition yikes full of hate and rage
We get it, Phoe. You are bored...
VastaKustutaThe "missing link" as it were:
VastaKustutahttp://www.change.org/petitions/hasbro-keep-derpy-named-derpy
in b4 Seth edits this comment...
What if Derpy is completely safe and this is a ploy to get us to all buy Derpy shirts?
VastaKustutahttp://www.change.org/petitions/hasbro-do-not-change-derpys-name#
VastaKustutaI made a differently-worded version, since I noticed people didn't like the wording on the one already posted.
lolwut? Phoe's better with a sale's pitch than Billy Mays' ghost!
VastaKustutaAlso, Don't worry so much everyponi. You will make Fluttershy cry.
Way ahead of you. I already proudly wear my Derpy shirt around base. "Hand over the muffins. You have 10 seconds to comply."
VastaKustutaI'd buy so many of them if they were only like ten bucks each. $25 seems like a bit much.
VastaKustutaYou fucks are LITERALLY WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS.
VastaKustutaSince Change.org is probably the only entity in the world that actually takes it's own petitions seriously, they couldn't ignore this, could they?
VastaKustutahttp://www.change.org/petitions/changeorg-remove-all-petitions-related-to-my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic
I ain't made of lods of emone!
VastaKustuta@MachinimistLukeBut why would it only be a nickname? Why can't it be her real name? What's your basis on that? The fandom named the pony way before Ditzy Doo was ever mentioned. She was even adressed to in the show as Derpy. So why assume it's just a nickname?
VastaKustuta@Flutterfan
VastaKustutaMost likely getting rid of her all together.
To make a long story short, some people weren't happy with how Derpy was portrayed in the show. They ended up sending complaints to Hasbro (and directly to the writer of the episode), and now she is all apologetic for including Derpy, and it sounds like Hasbro is going to 'rectify' the situation.
The correct action here was to be excited simply for the mentioning of Derpy, and celebrate that. They can't make her exactly what we want her to be, because there are quite a number of versions of Derpy. Unfortunately, this is not how things went down.
I get the feeling that this is a situation where the minority is louder than the majority, and they are spoiling this for everybody else in the process.
This is twice now that we've bitten the hands that feed us (Hasbro and the show's team). If this gets too out of hand, they could conceivably cancel the show BECAUSE of us.
Watch the show. Enjoy the show. Discuss the show amongst other bronies. But for the love of God don't ruin this for everybody by going straight to Hasbro with anything. Unless it's praise. I think they'll accept that.
@MachinimistLuke
VastaKustutaChrist, really? This is the time to pull this "Dizy is better" shit, when Hasbro appears to be pulling episodes and dumping merchandise?
...I bet they will go back to the episode and change her name to Ditzy or something. Dash can be a jerk sometimes maybe she was being mean.
VastaKustutaThat being said if I could find these people that are complaining and punch them in the face I would.
It sure is nice that the angry mails didn't have an effect. Oh wait it did.
VastaKustutaI'm not one to use sarcasm often, but when I do I do it for a reason.
HOW DARE YOU!
VastaKustutaMAKING DERPY SAD?!
YOU ARE BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD!
Derpy <3
Inafter yet more stupid freaken complaining by a bunch of internet idiots about Derpy shit.
VastaKustutaAnyway... what's this post about again? lol She's not going anywhere. Some random creeps from online who think they're tough shit aren't going to cause that. So I wouldn't worry. And Derpy is her name. Deal with it already, my goodness. Stop being an immature self-righteous twat and just suck it up already and move on. Jeez.
Anyway, again. I still wish they carried some of the shirts in both men and female sizes. Some shirts I love, but they don't carry them in females.
Can we please have an actual informative post with the explanation of what is going on instead of BUYSTUFF?
VastaKustuta@famusjamus do ou remember that whole SOPA thing not a few weeks ago? Do you not remember all the petitions signed ONILINE to get the attention of our congressmen senators and THE FRIGGEN WHITEHOUSE. Online petitions CAN work. There just need to be enough of a response to get the attention of those who make the decisions for us. Signed the antichange petition bought my shirt and am hoping to Luna that those in charge over at Hasbro can ride through the haters and make the appropriate decision. We as fans need to respect the outcome and let them do what they do best. Making a show that has brought so many peoples across the planet together under a banner of friendship.
VastaKustutaalright, since many haven't heard apparently....
VastaKustuta"We have a reliable but anonymous source that has confirmed that Hasbro Inc. is currently pressuring WeLoveFine T-Shirts to remove their Derpy related merchandise. We are currently at this time unsure if it is all Derpy related material, or just that which carries the so called “offensive” term on it.
Yes, sadly this is due to the petitions and loud protests of many. Do not spread hatred because of this, it is the human right to have an opinion or a dislike of something, and it is also the human right to be able to protest that which you do not like and petition for its destruction. There was plenty of people who had opinions on the whole Derpy incident, both sides have valid points. But it takes the entire situation to a whole new level when you begin protesting something that appeared on a cartoon. I am sorry if that is insulting to some, but there are more important things in this world that could use that effort and benefit more. But such is life."
- derpyhoovesnews.com
FWIW, my experience with online political communities (shudder) has taught me to take ANONYMOUSLY SOURCED NEWS OF DOOM with a grain of f'n salt. I'd see this crap all the time. Example: Politico publishes article claiming that "anonymous White House sources" have told them that Obama plans to announce a plan to privatize Social Security in his State of the Union speech. Cue everyone on the left-wing blogosphere FREAKING THE FUCK OUT for half a day before somebody goes "Wait, who's the source again?" and a WH spokesperson confirms that, yes, that Politico is full of shit and Obama isn't crazy enough to commit political shotgun suicide.
So color me skeptical about Derpy's demise. Because I keep hearing about "people protesting Derpy", but I can't find any, y'know, actual evidence of actual people actually protesting it.
I'm thinking of buying a derpy shirt. To be honest, I was worried what the Public reaction to derpy would be. If Hasbro does have to do something I hope that its a statement explaining Derpy's origins amd that no offense is meant.
VastaKustutaIf Derpy does suddenly dissapear it would have somewhat dark implications. They just make everyone in Equestria who don't look normal dissapear?
Link again if anypony was wondering where it went:
VastaKustutahttp://www.change.org/petitions/hasbro-keep-derpy-named-derpy
Let this be a message, both to Hasbro and ponies like Jeese who don't allow us to have nice things. That's why I fully support this petition, if you don't, fine. Stand with me or be crushed under my hooves!
@txgb324
VastaKustutalol, that petition's hilarious, actually.
If we can't laugh at ourselves sometimes, how else, y'know?
@Shantara
VastaKustutaNo!now shut up and buy a shirt or derpy will die
....
Sorry for the ever-shifting nature of this post, folks. We're really scrambling for the right things to say and do. You'll get more information just as soon as we have it, and that's a Pinkie Promise.
VastaKustutaI feel like saying the name "Derpy" is inappropriate because it means "retarded" makes about as much sense as saying "poop" is inappropriate because it means "shit".
VastaKustuta@mycutiemarkisagun
VastaKustutaOh wait, I just found real evidence of a anti-derpy movement - a single petition w/ 54 co-signers that totally doesn't seem like a troll attempt nope no siree
Yeah, Hasbro's totally gonna bend to such MASSIVE PUBLIC PRESSURE.
A polite request to ED:
VastaKustutaIf you have something to report, report it. Don't put up a vaguely-worded post hinting at something that may or may not be the case, forcing people to scroll through the comments in search of whatever it is we're supposed to know.
@Masquerade
VastaKustuta"Honestly, I think that Tabitha's little voice derp is partially responsible."
Agreed. As far as I'm concerned, they can rename her and re-voice the scene. I don't want to see the scene removed, it was cute, so if that's what it takes then so be it. I'm not invested into the name "Derpy" or the voice enough to care.
@Phoe That'd be much appreciated. If something is really going on, I want to help out. But after what happened the last time we had a Derpy debate, I really want to see RELIABLE facts before we needlessly go and anger Hasbro. 'Cause that's the last thing I would want to do. They've been so great with us. Don't make them go 180 on us.
VastaKustutaCalm down everypony!!
VastaKustuta@Zielmann
Thank you for that. But I'll believe it when Derpy starts not showing up anymore in future episodes. All this anonymous sources and cloak and dagger stuff. Ugh.
And I'm really dissapointed everyone is blaming fellow Bronies for this (which may or may not even be real) Do we have solid evidence that the people who complained were Bronies? It seems like something some oversensitive mom would do.
Thanks for putting up the new petition, Phoe!
VastaKustutaAnd don't worry about the haters on this shifting post, if this is something that could actually be happening, even if it just appears that way and ends up not being a big deal, it's still something we should be doing things about.
Derpy needs to stay, blast it all!
Signed and bought (I wanted a Derpy shirt anyway)
VastaKustutaI think maybe the best thing is if everyone agrees to let this die down for now? Let the shirts go if that's what needs to happen. Hasbro will forget about this as long as it doesn't snowball, but this shouldn't turn into a big thing the MLP team has to deal with.
VastaKustutaPeople, if you're grateful for the inclusion of Derpy, as an easter egg or a speaking character or whatever, don't bombard Hasbro or the creators with emails, it just serves to make it a bigger issue than it needs to be.
@mycutiemarkisagun
VastaKustutaWhile I can't give you anything concrete, I honestly can't think of any other reason why the word Derpy would be blanked out, every instance of it, on the voice actress's blog.
(I'd link to it, but I don't want people to go and rush said blog with cries of outrage. It looks obvious to me that she doesn't like having to do so [otherwise, why would she leave the fan letters up with the blanked out name?]. And I wouldn't like to think that I added to the whirlwind of knee-jerk reactions by providing easy, one click access to harassing someone who is just a bystander caught in the middle of all of this.)
@Octavia
VastaKustutaActually, this might be apparently pretty serious, as there's a rumor (from a supposedly reliable source) posted on derpyhoovesnews.net (linked by someone in the comments above) that Hasbro's pressuring We Love Fine into dropping all Derpy merchandise, and the other rumor that seems to be going around is that Hasbro themselves removed The Last Roundup from iTunes because of backlash from people saying the name 'Derpy' is offensive.
I own TWO Derpy shirts! Maybe I'll buy another...
VastaKustuta@PwniesRule
VastaKustutaOH YOU TAKE THAT BACK MACHO MAN RANDY SAVAGE!
Doesn't he make you so mad you just want to go down there and hit him?
Well, maybe not him 'cause he's kind of big. But don't you want to hit the guy sitting next to you?
Well, not him, 'cause he's kind of big too, but don't you want to hit his kid?
*punches small child*
Take that Macho Man Randy Savage, you jerk!
Hasbro is used to Transformers fans that hate and complain about everything they do, so I think they know to take complaints with a grain of salt.
VastaKustutaI'm not too worried about this situation. Derpy is Derpy whether anyone likes it or not. I just don't see Hasbro doing a massive retcon on her just to please a few people.
Holy crap! Jumped from 40 signatures when I started the signing process to over 100 by the time I was done.
VastaKustutaKeep those signatures rollin'!
@Octavia
VastaKustutaI don't know, Hasbro pressuring WeLoveFine seems like a big deal to me. I mean it comes from the source.
It can easily affect the future episodes.
@Rasrap Smurf
VastaKustutaOrdered by stuff on the 25th of November. Took almost two months for it to be delivered. Nothing wrong with my order - was actually pleasantly surprised by the quality of the stuff, but I don't think I'll be ordering anything else from them.
For the outrageous shipping prices they charge, two months delivery time and incredibly slow e-mail response to my query as to what's going on... I expected better.
@Zielmann Wasn't that how Tiny Toons ended? Fans being obnoxious and plain shit and the creators being all 'fuck nevermind this'
VastaKustutaHope the character's to stay, but I don't think a petition's gonna change anything
@Ace2401
VastaKustutaI have some connections myself. So I may know more than what most do about some things. I also know that people tend to over-react to this stuff fairly quickly and go berserk. And rumors. Rumors, rumors, rumors. Don't believe everything you hear though.
@Phoe
VastaKustutaThanks for keeping everyone in the loop Phoe. It sounds like this may be pretty serious.
@mcatusf Actually, it was people writing to their Congress people, coupled with how badly SOPA was put together, which stopped it.
VastaKustutaOnline petitions have never had any effect on any issue whatsoever. I dare someone to prove me otherwise.
In Octavia we trust
VastaKustutaI can understand where the people who were offended by Derpy's canonizing are coming from, but honestly I think they are still making a mountain out of a mole hill. The whole issue seems like a bunch of over-reactive PC BS to me.
VastaKustutaWould I have preferred her to be named Ditzy Doo instead of Derpy Hooves? Yes, though Rainbow Dash still might have only been using a nickname. Would I have preferred she be presented as only an easily distracted air-headed clutz rather than possible mentally deficient? Yes, though her brief appearance was hardly enough to make such a distinction clear.
All that said, making a big fuss over it now is just plain silly. I for one take it for what it was a generous shoutout to the Brony community.
Long live the Muffin Queen!
@Octavia
VastaKustutaYeah, agreed. I'm not going to get to worked about it myself (though I would very much like the Derpy shirts to stick around until I have the money to buy one lol), it just seemed you were a little confused by the post is all.
@Zielmann
VastaKustutaReposting something from a while back because it predicted all this and gave a better alternative solution for future Derpy behavior than is provided in the petition:
"I hope they do more with Derpy. The way I see it, they could go two directions with her character, just as the fanon has: lovable oaf, or misunderstood genius with terrible hoof-eye coordination.
Given those choices I hope they go for genius. It's less predictable, puts more common stereotypes on the chopping-block, and makes Doctor Whooves + Derpy as time travelling companions all the more likely.
Besides, The 'lovable oaf' concept is nice, but it’s a tricky direction to go for a budding TV show. Worst case, it would trip over stereotypes like 'Blonde' and 'Mentally handicapped' instead of destroying them. Not sure if want."
See guys? It is possible to reconcile the differences of people who like/dislike Derpy by having Derpy appear in yet another episode, except as a genius or something: this would make a humorously consistent character of Derpy, and simultaneously destroy the stereotypes associated with her.
Haters will ackgnowledge that this depiction of Derpy does more to purge stereotypes from modern society than reinforce them, and people who like Derpy shouldn't mind because:
1: We'll get to see Derpy again
2: We've seen Derpy portrayed that way before in many fanfics, so there's no reason NOT to be used to it.
Overall, it's more constructive, and the only people who lose out are those who prefer the type of Derpy that reinforces the stereotype... Sorry to them.
WE LOVE YOU DERPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! XD nuff said!!!
VastaKustuta@Mike
VastaKustutaThis was a response to Zielmann because it offers a better way
I bought 2 Derpy Shirts just now!!!
VastaKustutaI bought the shirt that comes with the talking button!!!
VastaKustutaDangit! Get Organized! Why is there two petitions?
VastaKustutahttp://www.change.org/petitions/hasbro-keep-derpy-named-derpy
This one is already at 610. Please post them both if need be.
Hasbro's not going to change the name from Derpy to Ditzy Doo. More likely they will just order that Derpy be removed from the show altogether, even as a background pony.
VastaKustutaAnti-Derpy bronies are like those animal rights activists that accidentally released the Rage Virus in 28 Days Later.
In trying to correct a small injustice you've unleashed a greater horror.
Ekhm... I'm sorry but I don't know what's going on here. Is Hasbro going to change the offical name of this clumsy pony back to Ditzy Doo? Where's the source of this info? Is this a protest against this? If yes, why is there a commercial for shirts in the post?
VastaKustutaMoreover, who cares? Really, gyus. Derpy Hooves is lovable but still a minor character. You can call her whichever name you like. In the same time Hasbro has the right to pick up whatever damn official name they think is the most appropiate. Geez, let them run their business their way - they have the right to.
It's the mature thing to do.
*loves, hugs, gives muffins... signs* ^_^
VastaKustutaPlease sign my petition! http://www.change.org/petitions/derpy-derpy-far-even-as-decided-to-use-even-go-want-to-do-look-more-like
VastaKustutaWhen I go to Bronycon, I'm gonna wait til the room is crowded, yell "THE CEILING'S ON FIRE!", then sit back and watch all the bronys trample each other to death in a panic as they rush the door...instead of LOOKING UP to see if the ceiling is actually, in fact, on fire.
VastaKustuta@Ace2401
VastaKustutaIf there is enough of a outcry (more like whinnnnnning~), her name might not be used again in the show later on. That I could see. But frankly, I wasn't considering it anything but a one-time thing anyway myself.
@Ayashino
VastaKustutaProbably because someone thought that asking hasbro to "Just relax and unclench your butthole people" might be agains what we are pretending, so he rewrote the petition. Sincerely, I agree :P
Wait, shouldn't we be doing something about the economy?
VastaKustutaNo?
What about Climate change? Unemployment? Crime? Poverty?!
Fine, we will complain about a Pony being named Derpy in a cartoon show.
@Flutterfan
VastaKustutaYou should see my other post:
@Mike
Also has anyone considered that Hasbro's just taking the WeLoveFine Derpy stuff down now just because they now have a copyright on the name and must exercise it, and not because they think it might be offensive to people? After all, The risk would not be theirs in that case, but WeLoveFine's
Buy shirt... get free talking Derpy button.
VastaKustutaBest... order... ever...
And they don't even pay me to say that.
Holy crap, you're telling me that Hasbro is actually going to CENSOR Derpy and therefore going to CENSOR the BEST EPISODE SO FAR IN THE ENTIRE SERIES all because of a NAME???
VastaKustutaWhat is this...I don't....I'm going for this!
Derpy definitely needs her own episode now!
I don't see how calling a pony 'Ditzy Doo' is any less offensive then Derpy. Derpy is a made up term from what I gather....
VastaKustutaA blond pony named Ditzy? A DITZ? Sorry but if any name is stereotypical and offensive it's that one.
@Cloudynights Of course! Important things, like Pony, first!
VastaKustutaJust kidding.
Now, this is a Pony site, so we complain about pony things. I'm pretty sure many of us complain about those other things at more appropiate sites. Probably some of us actually try to fight them. But everthing has this place, and this is a place of Pony :P
I purchased a derpy shirt
VastaKustutaCan someone show me where this derpy hate is coming from. I've yet to seen anything but these random post saying that there is a problem. I've yet to see a post is protest of derpy. Which is making me think we might be causing the problem by being worked up over nothing which is making hasbro think there is a problem
VastaKustuta@mattwhite924
VastaKustutaHoly crap your right! I forgot about the touchy transformer fans! Remember when Animated came out? hehehehe. Oh the butthurt lol.
@mattwhite924
VastaKustutaHoly crap your right! I forgot about the touchy transformer fans! Remember when Animated came out? hehehehe. Oh the butthurt lol.
@Octavia My greatest fear is that the fandom's relation with Hasbro will be strained as a result of this. They make the best nod towards the fandom with Derpy's appearance. With this kind of reaction, who knows how the relationship stands.
VastaKustuta@Adub
VastaKustutaSelf-fufilling prophecy!
So, this is starting up again?
VastaKustutaPolitical Correctness needs to be sent to the moon. It is getting out of hoof. Too many things are avoided, or blown out of proportion just because it might offend one pony.
Why do some seek to prevent others from having good things?
@Cloudynights
VastaKustuta"Hmm....should I focus my time and energy on ending the horror of Female Genital Mutilation? Or making sure that my favorite fanon pony has cheesy t-shirts?"
....
"PONIES IT IS!"
@Octavia
VastaKustutaHeh, yeah. Seriously, somebody needs to call the waaahhmbulence. And while I doubt that we were ever going to see Derpy in the capacity we saw her in The Last Roundup again anyway, it would be lame if this had an effect on our chances of any more fun shout out in the future. So I agree that everyone should just shut up about the whole Derpy thing. Though encouraging people to buy Derpy shirts is a good idea, these are businesses who we have to appeal to after all.
This annoys me greatly...
VastaKustutaReally?
VastaKustutaAre people really offended by the word 'derp'?
*Picard Facepalm*
The definition of the word has nothing to do with mental disability...
@Flutterfan Exactly and i feel it is causing a rift in the community that shouldn't exist cause everyone just has their facts wrong
VastaKustuta@Kether
VastaKustutaI would 100% agree with you, I just don't see why people are finding this offensive when there are others things we can get offended about. Like Bigfoot! Or the hilarious mis-adventures of Derpy Hooves.
Oh, damn.
I was wondering why people were complaining on Twitter. Now I see what's going on. I can't believe a few people are offended by "Derpy".
VastaKustuta*Spike faceclaw*
If they change her name to Ditzy Doo, I'm so going to enter Whine Mode and "complain" as much as some of those "Ditzy cultists" are, right now.
VastaKustutaLet it be my personal revenge.
Derpy is my favorite pony. Derpy is a symbol of cooperation and goodwill between a production studio and a fanbase at a time when most studios are more concerned with busting their fans chops because drawing fanart violates their precious copyrights. Derpy is similar to a modernized Goofy or Gomer Pile and nobody complains about them! And most of all even if she IS a bit different than most ponies, if you label her "mentally retarded" you have made the biggest derp of your life; Derpy is a perfectly wonderful pony! When I get so worked up about this, I have to remember to chill out so my eyes don't Pinkie Pie out of my skull.
VastaKustutaIf hasbro and/or studio b want to make the name "derpy hooves" a nickname and cement her as not being retarded, I am completely fine with this.
VastaKustutaIF AND ONLY IF they do it by showing it in an episode. We all (at least the vast majority of us) love her how she is, although I doubt anyone would be opposed to further development.
@Ace2401
VastaKustutaI'm not sure about it effecting other shout outs in the future. Other shout outs have been received rather well as a whole. This seems to be the only real incident with something like this occurring. Honestly, I think it's not so much people who were genuinely offended by it, as it is simply people who liked the name "Ditzy" over "Derpy", and are using any kind of leeway they can to either have it changed, or anything else about her in the future removed entirely. That's what I'm gathering from this so far.
But yes, buying Derpy shirts is not a bad thing either. :)
Wasn't there an email screenshot posted a couple of days ago where someone from Hasbro confirmed that episode takedown from iTunes has nothing to do with Derpy debate? Even more - that they didn't even heard about it. And I haven't seen any massive anti-Derpy petitions with thousands of signers either.
VastaKustutaSo, why are we panicking now? What exactly new information do we have? Someone asked welovefine to remove stuff? Any confirmation of this or are you going to believe all internet rumors? In this case I've got a portal to Equestria to sell you.
I understand that EqD is in need of funds and don't mind the occasional ads, but causing panic without any factual evidence only to post link to merch site is kinda low.
OMG THE SKY IS FALLING! WE ARE GOING TO DIE!
On unrelated note: I would have preferred the name and personality of the gray pegasus shows in the episode were different, but I don't care enough to sign either 'for' or 'against' petition. The will never take my headcanon from me.
well this shows that bronies are full of crap
VastaKustutathe studio sends a love letter with derpy in a scene of the show and how they act? like a bunch of over sensitive babies
well done I bet your parents are proud!
Hold on!
VastaKustutaWhat's going on here?
Is Derpy name Really in trouble of being changed?
@Piper
VastaKustuta"Derpy is similar to a modernized Goofy or Gomer Pile and nobody complains about them!"
This. Just this.
Both sides of this upset me. Not what I wanted to see from the community at all.
VastaKustutaI really like Derpy, and have become attached to re-watching episodes to look for her and smile every time I do see her. I just want to continue doing that, you know, if it doesn't 'offend' anybody.
It's funny to me how people will get so worked up over what is essentially nothing. Yes, Derpy got her scene and it was awesome, but more than likely it was a one-off nod to the fans by the writers to show us they're in on the joke. This may be an unpopular sentiment, but I'd be surprised if she ever got a bit part like that again.
VastaKustutaAnd even if this ban does pass, and the character is re-edited and the old episodes taken down, it won't matter. The damage has been done at this point, in the character will be known as Derpy forever no matter what they do.
I mean, that's just how I feel about that.
as other people have said, it should also be noted that derpy has proven perfectly reasonable in many social functions. I mean, she was at the Grand Galloping Gala, and who derped that one up?
VastaKustuta@Coyote Troll harder plz.
VastaKustutaKthnxbai
@Cloudynights
VastaKustutaOh, you must be confused. People here aren't offended by Derpy being named Derpy, people here are offended by people who are offended by Derpy being named Derpy.
I hope I got that right :P
Actually, if we had to send some message to Hasbro/Studio B, I'd vote for something in the lines of "It's all right. There are few people making noise, but the vast majority of us just love you and your way of doing things. So just carry on being yourselves, we'd like you that way. Seriously guys, you're the best and don't let a few noisy people think otherwise. there's no problem here"
Ok... perhaps reworded in a way that doesn't sound like a stoned guy talking, but you get the idea :D
Also just to interject on the petitions side of things, sometimes it really does just take one complaint to have something pulled especially dealing with regular or childrens television.
VastaKustutaNot to say this makes me any happier about the situation, I just want to let people know that I've seen multiple instances of stations such as BBC channels here in the UK having to make edits or apologies based on a literal handful of complaints, so it's possible, and unfortunate.
I still don't want to believe any of this though, I just want to smile every time I see Derpy ;_;
Derpy Hooves is a well-loved, and innocent character. She is not some symbol of hatred to be held up by a loud and obnoxious minority.
VastaKustutaAllowing the silly mare her wonderful scene in The Last Roundup showed that even characters who are a bit ditzy are loved and tolerated.
To take that away from her, and from the fans who love her, would be showing the community that being a little different, maybe a little slow, will not be tolerated. That, my friends, would be a step in the WRONG direction.
mfw I spam petition with Tor
VastaKustutamfw I have no face
While I did sign the petition, I'm debating whether or not buying a t-shirt. Because when I bought a Pinkie Moon shirt, when it dried it peeled a little and considering both my parents knows a ton about screen printing yeah...
VastaKustutaEven if it's my only chance to get a Derpy T-shirt...
@Kether
VastaKustutaI know, it's just I don't know where to find the people who are offended and instead voiced it on here, sorry for the confusion, I know people on here are sane and that's why I stay here, my comment is a comment aimed at the people who are offended by the name Derpy, not the people offended by the people offended by Derpy.
And on a side note, if we can complain about names in the show, then I'm complaining about Twilight.
I'm offended by that, the film's are awful.
this petition ain't gonna take long... already 200 signings in about 5 minutes.
VastaKustutaShould be noted that aside from the episode down on iTunes all other Derp related things remain. The rest that have her with scenes and game on the Hasbro website still the derp vector.
VastaKustutaReally, with the group complaining about here there is always going to be an insulted group. There have been others that have already complained but thankfully ignored on other issues. This one might have gained some traction because political correctness is viciously effective at times. Yet, all it succeeds in actually doing is purging anyone of a certain nature more often than it gets them in and makes everyone else feel more awkward because they are objects to be pitied and tip toed around for worry of insulting them.
I also boggle at those that say because she's had some negative pictures it shows that's only how people view her. How about the hundreds of positive ones? Not to mention every pony has been drawn in unfortunate ways. Complain complain.
@Octavia
VastaKustutaYeah, like I said, I'm not too worried. And as long as nothing actually happens, and I'm leaning towards things not happening, I'll look back on this as an amusing episode the fandom went through. Everything is hilarious in hindsight after all. :P
@Cloudynights
VastaKustutaI'm offended by you thinking of changing Twiight's name :P. It's a great name! It's not her fault that someone decided to use that word to name... that.
I try to think of the word in other contexts. Like the "Key of the Twilight". That's a good use of the word :P
(And yes, trying to purposefully of-topic the thread a bit from the paranoia :P)
Wait, what?! They're really going to redub the episode just to give her a new name and voice? I like her name being Derpy... It's what most people know her as. Though to be honest I do like BaldDumboRat's version of her voice a little better since I always thought of her as just silly and ditzy not actually her being dumb, but couldn't they just fix it by giving her a different tone in a new episode? Tabitha rocks, she could totally pull it off. Though with this controversy I dunno if they'd take the chance sadly.
VastaKustutaWait, what?! They're really going to redub the episode just to give her a new name and voice? I like her name being Derpy... It's what most people know her as. Though to be honest I do like BaldDumboRat's version of her voice a little better since I always thought of her as just silly and ditzy not actually her being dumb, but couldn't they just fix it by giving her a different tone in a new episode? Tabitha rocks, she could totally pull it off. Though with this controversy I dunno if they'd take the chance sadly.
VastaKustutaSigned up! Though I'm quite sad that it has come to this.
VastaKustuta@The_A_Drain Well you have to remember, these jackasses call the companies that pay for the advertisement time on the network, usually representing some stupid group. Then they threaten to call for a "nationwide ban of your product". The advertising company gets scared, threatens to pull support, and the network or show has to make concessions or apologize. These guys are scum, hiding behind ignorance and a sense of pseudo-morality.
VastaKustutaI doubt the supposedly credible yet anonymous source is really right. This makes how many times that EqD has fallen for trolling?
VastaKustutaSeth, STOP REPORTING ON RUMORS THAT WILL MAKE PEOPLE SIGN PETITIONS. We are an army of angry fans and it is your job to make sure we aren't jumping the gun and making us all look like asses.
@FamusJamus
VastaKustutayeah because being sincere and spot on is trolling according to bronies or in this case you, nice one dummy
look I love the show but if there is one thing that pisses me off is bronies thinking they are the next coming of christ with that "love and tolerate" double standard
did the mane 6 put up with gilda's bullshit or trixie's antichs?
No
because they know when something just isn't good and lessons are shown in an expository way, bronies fail at that because they don't "tolerate" stuff, they ignore it, in paper, but then they go sending hate mails and crying because they have no idea what a "derp" is
If dollars did speak louder than words, SOPA would have passed.
VastaKustutaPetitions up over 1000, guys. Thanks for all your support, here's hoping this helps. Keep it coming - one signature for every person on this site!
VastaKustuta...
That's not realistic at all, of course, but hey! Whatever works to help keep Derpy safe.
The Last Roundup is still on the Hubworld site, Derpy and all. If they were pulling it, wouldn't that be one of their first targets?
VastaKustuta@silverstar
VastaKustutaI know what they are, and I have my opinions on these kinds of people.
It's just I felt the need to say that while there's a good chance all of this is complete rubbish it's actually not unheard of for something to be pulled from even just one complaint.
The BBC have done it on various occasions and they don't even have advertiser money to worry about, in fact they devote an hour each week on a special program to addressing complaints. When you throw "concerned parent" into the mix things get a bit more 'srs'.
Finding this whole thing rather upsetting to be honest, in no uncertain terms discovering MLP:FiM staved off a depression relapse over Xmas and the thought of losing my weekly Derpy search upsets me a lot.
Now that's a petition I can get behind. *signs*
VastaKustuta@The_A_Drain @silverstar
VastaKustutaYup, yup, good points.
I've always imagined a controversy like this involving Rainbow Dash. It wouldn't take much for some Christian group wanting attention to complain that the show was promoting a gay agenda with RD.
It's happened before with that one character from Teletubbies.
This kind of thing angers me. Enough so that I just penned an email to Hasbro and Hasbro Canada's PR department. I think this is a fair statement of support without being a dick.
VastaKustutaMy email to Hasbro PR:
Dear Hasbro PR,
I am writing to inform you that I am extremely disturbed to learn you have both pulled the episode, ‘The Last Round Up’, from iTunes and are apparently pressuring WeLoveFine.com to drop Derpy Hooves related merchandise. While I am hoping this is not true and you’re not actually harassing WeLoveFine, if it is indeed true it will be an enormous slap in the face to one of your rapidly expanding fan communities and frankly does not inspire me to continue spending money on your products.
Yes, I am an adult fan and while I realize I am not your target audience I do represent a demographic that consists of people with large amounts of disposable income. Disposable income I have not only used to purchase your products (My Little Pony, Nerf, etc.), but also to purchase products from your licensed partners (WeLoveFine) for myself and my niece and nephew. Income I will feel far less compelled to spend on your products if Hasbro pushes for the removal of Derpy Hooves.
I understand that you have most likely received some negative feedback regarding the portrayal of the much beloved fan character and I will even admit that I also think the voice chosen by Tabitha St. Germain, was probably not the best choice and could be misinterpreted. That said, this is no cause to go on the offensive and start purging the character. We love her, we made her and she is without a doubt the single symbol that represents your adult fans. When DHX decided to give her a full scripted appearance it made our hearts soar. It was the ultimate acknowledgement of our existence and it was hugely respectful. To attempt to undo that is to say that we don’t matter and if we don’t matter than we won’t support you. We may not be the biggest part of the fan base, but as I mentioned earlier, we’re the part with money to burn. I cannot see how any responsible business could actively choose to ignore a source of revenue.
Up to this point Hasbro’s acceptance and support of the Brony community has been seen as a shining example to other businesses. The way you’ve handled us has even caught the attention of major media outlets like The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal and Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielnyegriffiths/2012/01/19/skyrim-ponies-sopa/). Don’t let this be the decision that throws all of that good publicity and support away. Don’t be the company that took the complaints of a few people and spat in the face of a far larger portion of your customers.
Derpy Hooves is not now, nor has she ever been an insult to the handicapped community. If people choose to take her that way, then it’s the people who are wrong and a responsible business should stand up and correct them. Sweeping it under the rug is little more than an admission of guilt. Guilt that should not exist because DHX Media, and by extension Hasbro, Inc., have done nothing wrong.
Again, I hope that I am being misinformed, but if all of this is true then it’s a big mistake. Thank you for your time. I would appreciate a response. I can be contacted at [redacted] or at [redacted].
@Amazoness! Guy
VastaKustutaExactly. I don't mind if the posts don't come as fast so long as you get the story right. Knee jerk reactions like this don't help.
I signed. Twice. Save the bronies' beloved mascot!
VastaKustutaI'm going to have to echo those bothered by the vagueness of this post. If you have something to report, you should report it directly. If you can't, then I feel like it shouldn't be reported at all until it can be. I feel like this kind of rumor-mongering does not reflect very well. :\
VastaKustuta@Kether
VastaKustutaYou're offended by me being offended? Well I'm offended by you being offended by me being offended.
(And yes that would be the best, it's seems paranoia has gripped the masses)
I can't believe you guys are emailing Hasbro based on unconfirmed rumors and speculation. You know you're only drawing more attention to this from this suits than we need, right?
VastaKustutaDitzy Doo is a better regular pony-like name. Derpy Hooves sounds like a "herr derr" name :(...but I'll by a shirt anyway for my favorite background pony character, DITZY DOO.
VastaKustutaPLEASE DON'T CRY DERPY!!!
VastaKustuta@Jason "Njiska" Westhaver
VastaKustutaI'm not one to say people what to send or not, but if you accept at least a bit of advice, I'd try to write it so the possibility of all of this not being true is stated at the beginning.
Wait...what? This...this is contested? When did people derp on what a meme is? Have they never herd or been to the internet? I'm so confused!
VastaKustuta@Logan Warner
VastaKustuta>Seth, STOP REPORTING ON RUMORS THAT WILL MAKE PEOPLE SIGN PETITIONS. We are an army of angry fans and it is your job to make sure we aren't jumping the gun and making us all look like asses.
This.
@Mike
VastaKustutaDon't get me wrong, I think it would be great if this is the way it was handled. But given both the rumors AND the hard evidence we have (episode off iTunes right now), it doesn't seem to be the way this will go down. It's just too little too late at this point.
And another very important point needs to be made:
Whatever comes of this situation, we, as a community, need to just roll with it and lay low for a while. Unless we're sending positive feedback with no mention of the Derpy incident whatsoever. Again, I don't think Hasbro or Studio B will mind that kind of feedback.
@Matoro
VastaKustutaCool fanon fanaticism, bro.
Anyways, what the fuck is going on? I thought the whole derpy controversy blew over? What happened this time? Sources please?