• Princess Cadance Moves to the Fall?


    A recent press release over at Market Watch on the Wall Street Journal site seems to point at an entirely different date for the upcoming Princess Cadence/Shining Armor episode.  While the actual time for these two to appear has never been set in stone, it was generally been accepted that they will finish out season two.  This new article contradicts that completely, stating that the entire event will go down in fall.

    The quote: 
    Pony fans can act out imaginative stories of their own with delightful MY LITTLE PONY figures, playsets, and vehicles inspired by the series, including a variety of ponies and playsets inspired by the upcoming fall wedding of PRINCESS CADANCE.
    Considering we are 17 episodes in, I don't think we will see the next few stretched out over a year.  It could always be marketing voodoo getting in the way of actual times and figures, but that does appear to be a confirmation of a fall release for season three.

    That or a movie...

    They sure are pushing these two harder than anything previous seen.  I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't just an episode arc.   Discord and Nightmare Moon didn't get full playsets, but then again, they weren't pretty pink princesses.

    Feel free to make your assumptions and guesses in the comments!

    Thanks to Masem for the article link! Checkin out those obscure sources so we don't have to. 

    197 comments:

    1. If it's not a movie, then they could be talking about the plot. As in, it's fall in the finale, not the finale's in the fall

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    2. Might just be that the episode is /set/ in autumn, not airing then.

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    3. hmmmmm, a movie possibly... I like that.

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    4. I have no clue what to guess.

      BLIND COMMENT RAGE!

      If there was a movie...nah, some things are just too good to be true.

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    5. MMMMOOOOOOOOVVVVVVVIIIIIIIIEEEEEE!!!!

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    6. Movie. I'm loading the orbital money cannon right now. Aiming at Hasbro.

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    7. No need for guessing. We can make kebabs of this mule this fall, summer or spring. No difference ^^

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    8. It could just mean that the episode will take place in the fall, not fall IRL but fall in the show.

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    9. Well, the good news is that Season 3 is pretty much going to happen.

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    10. Oh boy, you put the idea of a MOVIE into peoples' heads now.

      Please let it be a movie...

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    11. They could make a movie based on Past Sins. Am I right or what?

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    12. It could be that the term fall wedding is a plot device. Not that episode will air in fall, but the wedding in the show will take place in fall. I don't know if this proves the point, but Fall Weather Friends didn't originally air in the fall, or maybe it did. I wasn't a fan at the time, so I don't know.

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    13. they better have a good backstory for this...

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    14. That will be a few or just one episode completely unrelated to the rest of the show and more dedicated to kids this time, I guess.

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    15. Still saving my money for the CUTIE MARK CRUSADER FLOWER GIRLS (yay) set which will come out this autumn.

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    16. movie Movie MOVIE MOOVVIEEE!!!!!!!

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    17. They've spelled cadence wrong, so they have to lose credibility marks for that.

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    18. I would very much like a movie. Take as much time as you want. :D

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    19. "Considering we are 17 episodes in, I don't think we will see the next few stretched out over a year."

      I can see people over at Hasbro laughing and saying "CHALLENGE ACCEPTED"

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    20. a MLP movie?
      my god the theaters will be full of bronies and of course, new movie means...
      MOVIE TOYS!
      Movie toys are always better than the series toys and usually have way more detail.

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    21. It's unlikely that it's referring to "fall in the show" rather than IRL, since this is a marketing article referring to when toys are coming out and such. That would be an extremely odd place to put an adjective that only impacts the episode itself.

      I haven't payed terribly close attention to the whole Cadence thing, but are we certain that she's even going to be in the show at all? What if she and Shining Armor are nothing but toys?

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    22. I think they really should do a movie. Based on the sheer size of their current audience that would be one of the best marketing moves they can make. Aside from a special edition Derpy blindbag. :D

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    23. I'm really hoping it's a movie :D It really does seem like more hype than we'd get over a season finale or premier.

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    24. I agree that "Fall Wedding of Princess Cadence" could just mean that the episode is set in the fall.

      That, or it could be the season three opener in the fall of 2012.

      I highly doubt it's going to be a movie.

      More interesting is the part of the article that says Hasbro has been partnering with other companies to make COLLECTIBLES.

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    25. I predict a movie. The toy lines associated with Cadance is too excessive for simply opening season 3. And the timing isnt right for closing season 2.

      So for all intended purposes, it is safe to assume we will get either a movie or an OVA this year.

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    26. I hope if it's a movie that it's not on TV.
      I want to go to the Movie Theater to watch it!

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    27. @magnorcriol
      Sadly, no. There was a post from voice actor about recording of Shiny Armor.

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    28. To be honest I'm questioning how hard they are pushing this one. They've done right by us in the past, but this one has me... a bit nervous. The scenes she's shown in are looking a bit "Princess Promenade".

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    29. Yup. Time to let our imaginations run wild on this one. Considering the nature of weddings, coupled with the fact that it's the land of possibilities, a movie definitely doesn't seem out of the question. Whatever the end result, I'll bet it's going to be EPIC!!!

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    30. eeeehhhhh.... i dunno

      Usually "movie versions" of shows come out pretty terrible. I'd hate to see this show be subjected to a demoralizing spurt of "forced creativity".

      Don't get me wrong, I have faith in the MLP team, but there's a long running curse with these sort of things...

      Anyway, I hope I don't annoy anypony by spamming this message, but I can't believe I didn't think of this earlier. I also apologize for using the royal canterlot voice. FOR THOSE IN THE US WHO WANT TO SUPPORT MLP, BUT DO NOT HAVE A CREDIT CARD. Please consider buying an iTunes gift card at any store with cash and purchasing the episodes. It's starting to hit me that we really need to make sure we support Hasbro lest we risk losing the show or having it degrade.

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    31. The mere mention of a movie makes me twitcha-twitch with excitement! Imagine Pinkie Pie on the big screen popping out and saying, "Hi! Welcome to the My Little Pony:Friendship is Magic Movie! Uh oh, eye twitch, tail twitch, eye flutter. You know what that means? The movie's starting!" Squeeeee! I love season 2. The only thing I have been disappointed with is the lack of Pinkie songs. Besides that, I think season 2 trumped season 1.

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    32. @comickid

      "Movie toys are always better than the series toys and usually have way more detail. "

      The Transformers DotM toys would disagree with you.

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    33. I honestly suspect a season 3 premiere. After all, to date we have 2-part epic premieres and a 1-part finale.

      For myself, no movie pls. I prefer my ponies in 22-minute joyrides.

      ...and in hours-long sleep-depriving fic writing sessions.

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    34. Princess Celestia and Queen Rainbow Dash marry. Princess Cadance is their daughter!

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    35. Yes, they do seem to be pushing those two pretty hard. Which is unfortunate, because they don't sound all that interesting. I wonder where they'll fit in..

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    36. It makes sense and matches up with the earliest "confirmation" of Shining Armor, which was the voice actor saying how much fun he had performing the role. His quote came out around the same time the other voice actors were talking about beginning Season 3.

      I'm curious as to where this season is going... There's no hint of a "Gala" or anything to finish out the year. I miss that. It would be kind of a shame to finish on a simple, random episode. "The Best Night Ever" might not have been epic in storyline, but it had a lot of build up over the season and was absolutely jam packed with moments and songs.

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    37. If it were really a movie coming out in the fall, we would have known about it by now from...movie info sources, whatever they are. I mean, I remember seeing a preview for a movie and its release date was like, a year and a half in the future.

      Maybe a 1-hour TV special "movie", but release date "Fall" means it could just as likely be the Season 3 opener.

      Who gives a fuck, no matter what it is, it's gonna be fucking epic.

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    38. @Beta-Carotene
      I know I'm being out of character here, but if they were on zune I'd buy them.
      iTunes loves crashing nVidia drivers whenever it feels like it.

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    39. I'm actually pretty excited for the eventual episode featuring her, either in Season 2 or 3 (or maybe a movie). I'd like to see how they write her into the show - it seems a bit unfair to demonise her character, when for all we know, the moment after the episode's finished airing, she may well be the new best pony.

      Also, it's totally not because I'm planning on using her in a fic I've been planning...
      <_<
      >_>

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    40. Either way, new characters, especially those of the alicorn type, are very welcome. I find it pretty exciting :3

      Oh and I almost spat my water all over the screen when I read "movie." That will now always be a possibility in the back of my mind, even if it never happens... god would it be amazing though.

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    41. Hmm like people have said it could be in fall in either Equestria or Earth. Though wouldn't mind the episode sooner.

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    42. Maybe the season finale is just the announcement of Princess Cadence's wedding, the wedding itself could be the Third Season premiere.

      And as how these premieres go, a 2-parter.

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    43. While we're imagining, what if the movie was written by Lauren!

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    44. on the one hand i'd love it if there was a movie. on the other, i just *know* that when that kind of money gets involved they'll just focus-group it to death and it'll be awful. The fact the tv series costs so little to make gives its makers a rare freedom.

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    45. @suika2344

      Like I said, sorry, but I'm just feeling kind of uneasy lately about the financial situation. I know the show is popular but I've encountered very few people who have actually given money to Hasbro, and there's just so many ways to get the show free.

      I dunno, I've just seen this pattern before where a show gets really popular and it ends up actually hurting it because of all the free options.

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    46. MOVIE MOVIE MOVIE MOVIE MOVIE MOVIE MOVIE MOVIE MOVIE MOVIE MOVIE MOVIE MOVIE MOVIE MOVIE MOVIE !

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    47. So Cadance is getting married.

      @Celestia

      I didn't know because you turned me to stone.

      @ everypony besides Celestia

      _/' '\_ is she still there. *shakes with fear*

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    48. Imo this is just one of those marketing strategies to increase sales of a pushed character.

      Of course it's a PRINCESS.
      Of course she's PINK.
      Of course it's a WEDDING.

      Nothing for us. Also its pushed hard by Hasbro.
      I wish the guys and gals from the studio don't have to put in any canon characters. Or can say, that they do this only because of Hasbro, blah, blah.
      I hope they get enough freedom to make it enjoyable for us, by finding a good and acceptable story and explanation for this.
      But because of Hasbros strong involvement I think they don't.

      Well lets see what further information we'll get in the future.

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    49. I'd almost say its going to be a feature length movie but that's just wishful thinking XD

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    50. Cadence is really starting to get on my nerves.

      Her episode isn't even out yet and every mention of her fills me with a looming dread...

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    51. i mean, the movie in our minds is the one Makkon's been assiduously writing the soundtrack to.

      Sadly, that's not the one they'd make.

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    52. You know, I'd accept a third alicorn in an FiM movie... if it was, say, Celestia's evil demonic brother who she banished to the netherrealm before Equestria's beginnings. And he's back and bringing an army of demons to annihilate Equestria. And Celestia, Luna, and the Elements of Harmony, along with some supporting characters like Trixie, Big Mac, and the CMC are the only ones that can stop him from summoning the Sm'Uuz, an ancient eldritch abomination that devours planets like a giant purple acidic space amoeba of eternal torment.


      ...That's MY personal idea for an FiM movie anyway... Not that anyone would ever bother to make something like that. Naaaah, we've got to regress FiM back into G1 with all the pretty pink princesses and getting married and gag me with a spoon...

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    54. I'd be glad to say that discussed article doesn't mean jack shit, but it cites HAS-PR as a source.

      Hmm, I would still like to think they messed up something. Maybe wedding takes place in fall in-universe?

      If not, it's gonna be a long wait till we see another princess. Purists are pissing in joy now I guess.

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    55. @Cgeta

      Have a little faith in the crew, will ya? Just because a couple characters are being "forced" into the show does not mean the episode(s) will be bad.

      I mean, the train was "forced" into the show as well, and it had no negative impact. When I first heard about it I thought May the Best Pet Win was going to be a "forced" episode so that they could assign the RD toy a pet, but it turned out to be awesome.

      Really, they aren't just going to make something shitty because they have to add a couple characters.

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    56. @Beta-Carotene

      That's been said about six times already. It is a distinct possibility.

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    57. @MyBoyJ

      See, that's what I get for not reading the rest of the comments XD

      Currently rushing through homework & stuff.

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    58. @Nostalgia Schmaltz

      Plus, the pet that RD got in May the Best Pet Win isn't even included with her as a toy.

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    59. I dunno: the toy set could be entirely unrelated to the TV show: this has been the case in the past.

      Look at the bones!... I mean, look at the blind-bags!

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    60. @Dusty the Royal Janitor

      Let's look at some of the other "regress back to G1" -esque plots, eh?

      Rainbow Dash has to choose a pet. - episode turned out to be awesome.

      Twilight can't think of something to write to princess - Episode turned out to be beyond epic

      Ponies go to a froo-froo dance. - Again, epicness.

      Seriously, it sounds like you have absolutely no faith in the crew, that just because they have to add two more characters, we're going to get "G1 pretty pink princess" episode.

      I am disappoint.

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    61. intriguing, but all I can say is I hope "princess cadance" isn't a copy-paste :D

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    62. @MyBoyJ

      None of the pets included with any of the toys match up to the show. It's like the toy division only knows the character names and what they look like...sigh.

      But that also brings up another point, since when are the toys and show very close to each other? Sure Cadence may be a "pretty pink princess" as a toy, but does that mean she's going to be a trophy wife in the show? Of course not.

      Really people, HAVE FAITH!

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    63. @Nostalgia Schmaltz

      I have faith in them. They will surely do the best out of what they have.
      But how much will they have?

      Also I prefer to always expect the worst logical thing. So I can get positively surprised.
      I hate it to be right.

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    64. Something just sort of tells me that it might be a movie, maybe not a theatrical release but a movie nonetheless. I recall reading something a long time ago that sounded suspiciously like it might hint at a movie. Thing is, I don't don't know if it would follow FIM or if this is getting back to the old and girly ponies that we seem to somehow despise. Don't forget that there is still that other demographic that still requires everything be about pretty pink princesses.

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    65. @Nostalgia Schmaltz

      You do make a valid point, and I agree.

      But you gotta remember man, no matter how much I trust the MLP team (which is a very large amount), there are always words that induce a cringe reaction for me.

      Words like, "educational game" and "My Little Pony: The Movie"

      Actually, anything called ': The Movie'

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    66. @Mike

      Well... half of the blind-bags... but you get my point.

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    67. Ugh, this whole Princess Cadence thing reeks of the horrible stench of marketing overruling the writers, something this show has managed to largely avoid, which was an essential part of how it gained such an audience.

      Now they are forcing in another alicorn or two, creatures which are equivalent to gods in this world, for the sake of her being a pretty princess and getting married.

      If this is actually played straight, I feel for Faust, because it goes so strongly against everything she stood for in making the show. Have some respect for the creative freedom of your artists, corporate suits. There's no reason you had to make her an alicorn, and I hope so much that she's actually a strong character instead of just a hollow toy placement.

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    68. @Beta-Carotene

      Even Pokemon: The Movie?

      That was awesome when I was a kid.

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    69. @Mike

      I soiled my armor I was so scared!

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    70. haha, apparently it interpreted that last part of my sentence as HTML

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    71. @Nostalgia Schmaltz

      You're misinterpreting what I'm saying.

      While I have no issue with character driven stories... in fact a wedding could actually be an interesting plot, especially if it goes bridezilla... the way that Cadence is being handled suggests nothing more than the hands of marketing behind everything. This reeks of executive meddling, on the level of G1, where the writers were basically told to make everything safe and cuddly and non-confrontational.

      Cadence, given her design, the products she's in, the way she's being pushed, and the way that she's being shoehorned into the show, represents everything that's wrong with toy-based shows, similar to the way MLP G1 did.

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    72. @Nostalgia Schmaltz

      The Celestia toy is also a "pretty pink princess" and even talks like an airhead, but Celestia in the show is a badflank.

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    73. @Lupus Albus

      Yeah, this. This here is the big problem that I was trying to say.

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    74. Why not both? why not a good old-fashioned "To be continued" to end season 2 and start season 3?

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    75. @Lupus Albus

      In what way? Seriously, I'd like to know; we know literally nothing about Cadence aside from her name, title, and design. And as for the "gods" thing, all too many people seem not to realise that that's an entirely fanon notion; it was never stated at any point in-series that alicorns are anything but a long-lived species of pony with both wings and a horn. People like to bandy around the "fact" that Celestia and Luna are supposedly patron deities of the sun and moon, except that Hearth's Warming Even showed that before they appeared, ordinary unicorns were able to raise the sun and moon just fine by themselves.

      Really, I think people are either overanalysing this Cadence thing or confusing fanon with canon; the only surefire way we'll know what happens and whether or not it conflicts with anything is to wait and see. I know lots of other folks have said so, but try to have some faith in the show's team; they've worked miracles before.

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    76. @Dusty the Royal Janitor

      This^

      The only hope I have for keeping the artists in control is for PR to intervene and tell them they're going to massively piss off a large chunk of their fan base. PR obviously is now very aware of us (they said so themselves) and hopefully they can start seeing the potential.

      That said, the toy department and the show have been largely disconnected thus far, and I'm starting to feel that's a good thing. I'd like to think that the show would govern what the toys were, but we know that's not what would happen. *cough*train*cough*

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    77. A TV movie made by the same crew as the series has a chance of being good. We know what they do with unpromising-sounding story ideas. And in production terms it's just a longer-form of what they usually do.

      I fear for a theatrical-release movie, as that'll be Interfered With.

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    78. @Mysecsha

      Because cliffhangers suck.

      Do you really want to wait months to find out what happens? I could barely wait a week for Return of Harmony part 2.

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    79. MOVIE! IN THEATERS! WITH RAINBOW POPCORN TO MARKET IT!

      No, but really, this may well be a good indicator for season 3, and if it is more power to them. I have full faith that with this crew it will be amazing.

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    80. I'm just hoping Princess Cadence turns out to have a close, canonical, biological relationship with Princess Celestia. Her mother or her daughter, for instance.

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    82. Alternatively, it might be that the in-show season will be fall, rather than the episode airing-time.

      You know, like in The Running of the Leaves?

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    83. @LizardWizard

      I never even considered that Cadence could be Celestia's daughter. I did have the thought that Cadence could be her mother and the wedding takes place thousands of years ago.

      Celestia suddenly having a daughter would seem very out of place.

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    84. I think it would be interesting if Princess Candence's wedding ends up as either the season finale or better yet the 2 part season 3 opener.

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    85. Honestly I'm doubting it's a movie. And season three is already in the works as you know. The biggest question relating to Cadance that I know of is if she does make an appearance in the show, whether it will be in season two, or be apart of season three. If it is in the fall that would say season three I suppose.

      Of course, the other big question most Bronies seem worried over is the quality of the episode or episode arc and whether it would feel too forced with these new important characters added in. I'm not too worried myself though. I have faith that it would be carried out in a very good way. Plus, just because they're in one or two episodes, doesn't mean we will ever see them again or they will effect the usual stories in any way. Look at Luna for goodness sakes.

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    86. With a theatrical-release movie, there's just too much money at stake, so the money-men will hold it too tight and crush the life out of it.

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    87. @Nostalgia Schmaltz
      Not necessarily bad, but I think for every forced-in Tank [Copter] and Angel Bunny we've had a useless Winona or a godawful Owlowiscious.

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    88. Eh, I'm cautiously optimistic about her. I have faith in the writers, remember, these are the people who made an episode about a unicorn designing dresses for her friends to wear to a fancy party good. Yeah, it has the toy department's fingerprints all over it, but Hasbro has always had it's hand in the show (For one, they're the ones that requested the crew place a fashion focused pony in the show, who we all know as Rarity.) Besides, I always considered the fanon belief the Princesses were gods to be BS.

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    89. @StrangeNoise

      Yes, this too. That's part of why I'm promoting buying the show (for those who can). We have to show the execs that our opinions are not just a side annoyance.

      If we don't contribute enough money from our end, no-one on the "pure money" side could justify putting any effort into keeping us happy. The production team cares obviously, but we have to remember that the execs have the final say, and execs just do what the money tells them to.

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    90. I'll wait until there is more information before I'll judge. But, if movie... ~awesome!

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    91. @Octavia

      I agree with your "have faith in the crew" and "one-time appearance" points.

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    92. things are gonna get very interesting.

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    93. @GamerlordDidn't Faust say they were Gods. Even if they aren't, they would probably be considered Gods

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    94. @Beta-Carotene

      With you on that one, though the recent chaos with iTunes, and the continued absence of S2E14 (lest we forget, it's still MIA) from the itunes store, doesn't make it easy when trying to encourage people to support the show...

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    95. Hey, for all we know, Cadence is a surly warrior princess who likes to get her hooves dirty far more so than Celestia. Remember when Luna was all soft and cuddly in fandom's minds, and then dropped from the sky in a bitchin', bat-winged chariot and started screaming in Thor-speak?

      If the suits dictate that Cadence must wear a pretty gown and get married in a storyline, that's fine... There's nothing in such a demand that says she has to be a crappy character to do so. Maybe she's the cool young aunt of the family.

      Regardless, the idea of Celestia and Luna being the only alicorns in the show's storyline is past (or severely numbered.) People need to start dealing with it.

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    96. I'm not quite sure what's going on, and it's possible I'm not reading this correctly, but here's my thought. Perhaps this Princess Cadence is part of the season finale. However, Princess Cadence toys probably won't be made and sold immediately. They probably want to see how popular she is first. Though from the sound of things, Hasbro's probably betting on her being popular anyway, but I have no idea how the marketing of toys works so <(-_-)> . And maybe Princess Cadence's wedding is only pertinent to the playset, might have nothing to do with anything that happens in her episode.

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    97. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!!!!!
      OMG THIS IS EPIC!!!
      NOW WE NEEED A MOVIE

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    98. @Harwick

      "Hey, for all we know, Cadence is a surly warrior princess who likes to get her hooves dirty far more so than Celestia."

      That would rule so much; if the courtiers have to basically fight her into her wedding dress...

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    99. ... after all they surely have to explain her absence so far in the series. she's surely not been hanging around Canterlot Castle.

      Though tbf you could argue the same for Princess Luna between S01E02 and S02E04... :-}

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    100. @Senior Waffles

      They've already unveiled Princess Cadence and Shining Armor toys, as well as a "Wedding Castle".

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    101. @StrangeNoise

      But in Luna's case, at least she was alluded to in the opening storybook, and shown in the second episode.

      If Cadence just shows up without ever being mentioned, it will smack of forced product placement.

      That said, I think Studio B will pull it off spectacularly.

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    102. I do wonder how Studio B is going to factor this Cadence into the show without it seeming forced.

      Also, all I have to say about a movie is "IA SCH'MA'UTZ!"

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    103. @StrangeNoise

      I agree. And I HATE Apple. I very much wish they were on another service. I buy the episodes, but I know that I have to pirate them anyway because of Apples "you're just renting from us" policy with their products.

      But, what choice do we really have? I'm sorry, but I can't bring myself to shop in the pink isle. I've gotten some stuff from hot topic but I have to question how much they really make off that. Buying the show directly is the best way to support just that, the show itself.

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    104. Well, that sucks.
      I deploy in the spring.

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    105. This is obviously the season 3 premiere. Keep in mind, Return of Harmony was technically produced as part of season 1, so it stands to reason that they're just doing the same thing they did before.

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    106. Whatever it is, they must have a decent place on the cast. Not simply a one episode character

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    107. @Beta-Carotene

      The pink aisle is not to be feared. I go in there all the time. It's where I got my Rainbow Dash, Rarity, Twilight, and the blind bag set from Toys R Us.

      I understand that you want to support the show, but ways to do that are limited unfortunately. Support the toys to support the franchise.

      I also bought the first season from iTunes.

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    108. My mighty (power rangers) theory :

      Back then an Italian Brony who had a visit at Hasbro Italia telled us to watch out for episodes 26/27 and added a mysterious sentence "There will be more from **** characters" (Something along those lines) People thinking **** = main or evil characters. IMO Princess Cadance will make an apperance in those eps. As being probably a new (main) important character. Or who knows, maybe her wedding will be messed up by a new evil antagonist ? And the mane 6 will help her and Shiny Armor?

      But what if like the season 1, the season 2 finale was going scheduled in fall starting the 3rd season ? Princess Cadance would make her first apperance in this case next fall.

      BUUUUUT Princess Cadance Toy set was scheduled to be out next AUGUST. So it's most likely a season finale.

      MY MIIIIND ! TOO MUCH THINKING. D8

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    109. My question is: Where do these "Princess Ponies" come from ? Who's the king ? Where did "Prince Blueblood" come from ? If he's Celestia's kid, who's the dad ?? Is he Celestia's brother or son or second cousin first removed ? If Celestia was really in charge, shouldn't she be "Queen Celestia" ? These are questions that need to be answered !!! Then again, I'm talking about a pastel colored TV show for little girls....

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    110. @MyBoyJ

      "That said, I think Studio B will pull it off spectacularly."

      Yes. If they're basically given "here, these characters, looking sorta-like this, a wedding. Go.", they'll do something awesome.

      The more they're ridden by money-men fearful of a theatrical box office flop, the worse it'll be.

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    111. @Scott Muir

      In the show, Rarity says that Blueblood is Celestia's nephew, but Lauren Faust said that was a misnomer, as he is not Luna's son either. He is somehow related to Celestia and Luna though.

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    112. So the season two finale might be totally different? Interesting.

      And I trust the team topull this off, whenever it lands.

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    113. I really just don't care. I can trust the team to not do something stupid. We are almost done with Season 2 and it's turning out great. Have a little faith guys.

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    114. Listen to this person:
      @Harwick

      He's said exactly what I wanted to say. Everything we know points to Cadence and Shining Armor appearing in season 3, and nothing specific has ever pointed towards the season 2 finale, as far as I'm aware (apart from weird, unspecified rumours).

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    115. I'm doubting this is a movie. I also doubt there ever will be a movie (at least one released in theaters...)

      However, that doesn't mean I wouldn't extremely WANT a movie...*hint hint Hasbro*

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    116. @Beta-Carotene

      "I agree. And I HATE Apple. I very much wish they were on another service. I buy the episodes, but I know that I have to pirate them anyway because of Apples "you're just renting from us" policy with their products."

      I don't hate apple, and it's worth mentioning, there's been no sign of them remote-deleting the episodes 14 and 17 that have appeared, been downloaded, and removed from the store. I mean, I backed up as I wasn't sure if they could or would, but they haven't.

      And for the same reasons I do support fair-use decryption using eg: requiem. This gives you .mp4 files that are the equivalent of iTunes Plus files: They're not encrypted, they'll work in any player (I have them in my Plex system), but they retain the tags that identify you as the purchaser. Which is fine if you're not going to, like, *upload* them anywhere...

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    117. @Dusty the Royal Janitor

      I'm sorry but it seems you never actually watched the G1 cartoon. G1 had more villains and dangers than G4 ever will. With villains wishing to harm/capture ponies nearly every episode. Villains often looking far more dangerous and scary than what you will see in FIM (or any other girls cartoon these days). Heck, several episodes featured ponies at the brink of dying.

      Yet you call this gen "safe and cuddly and non-confrontational"?

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    118. ...grumble grumble grumble...
      these two new alicorns better have a damn good story behind them.
      ...grumble grumble grumble...

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    119. @Harwick

      Don't forget what Jayson accidentally let slip at the first BroNYCon - there's still another villain on the horizon.

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    120. @Arcticwlf

      What if the new villain IS Princess Cadence?

      She might be trying to overthrow Celestia and Luna. Or she might be an impostor posing as Cadence. Mix in some nice political intrigue...

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    121. It could be a misprint.

      The FAIL wedding of Princess Cadence. It's either a badly written episode, or a hilarious one where she and Shining Armor realize they hate each other.

      Or the FELL wedding of Princess Cadence. Used as an adjective to describe things that are destructive and savage. The guests are massacred.

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    122. "That or a movie..."

      Screw looking for hints of Season 3, that's already confirmed enough to me. For the love of Celestia, make it a movie!

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    123. *grabs Seth by the collar* Don't fuck with me man! They've already taken away my Doctor Who for an entire year. You do not want to see what happens when I lose my pony fix until from now until the fall along side that.

      Shit will get real Seth. Very real. Very quickly.

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    124. I have a feeling that the wedding will turn out something like the Grand Galloping Gala.

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    125. Alternative meaning, Princess Cadence gets married in the fall, as in episode still airs in spring, but in the show it's fall.

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    126. My guess is that it will be the Season 3 pilot, probably a 2-parter like the others.

      I'd love if it was a movie though. My conundrum: I work at a movie theater, so how to see it without my coworkers finding out...

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    127. Or a movie?

      What if... they are planning on releasing only 13 episodes of season 3 along with a movie?!

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    128. Maybe the wedding takes place in the fall in the series, not in real time?

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    129. If they keep the style of the show... it is possible to create a movie like this in 3-4 months.

      Hmmmmm. It's possible to make a movie. But that's about it...

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    130. I'd guess a direct-to-DVD release hopefully not with different production quality.

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    131. This WOULD make sense. A three-parter DOES seem like a good way to one-up the previous season premieres.

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    132. I can't wait that long!

      NO I LITERALLY CAN'T!!!

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    133. Now I can't wait for the new Alicorn episode's but I haven't seen the playset in Australia for her yet but I am keeping my eyes out for it which is going to get all my money

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    134. I think this may be what Lauren may have disagreed with to separate from the show

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    135. Sounds like it's Season 3 now. It matches with the toy being released in August, just find it odd Hasbro are marketing the episode so soon in advance...

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    136. It sould air this spring but the episode could take place in Equestrian Autumn.

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    137. It could be season three. At least if it is, that means that we dont have THAT long. Fall really isnt as far away when you have something to anticipate

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    138. @Fengor I know that feel dude. I know that feel. Doctor Who and MLP are pretty much the only shows I watch that are still on. Other then Psych.

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    139. There are three significant meanings of cadence: a drum piece made for marching, a call-and-response during marching, or the chord progression that ends a musical phrase, indicating either closure or continuation.

      Since the name is from the toy division, I'm going to assume the name was chosen simply for its connection to music. Princess Cadence is marrying Shining Armor (a knight, I presume?) so a military march is the most likely significance.

      However, season 3 marks the end of Lauren and Rob's involvement, so it may also signal a change in tone.

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    140. @Ki
      Agreed... To many bronies don't give G1 any credit. G1 IS the inspiration for G4's characters, and the show that started it all. Escape from midnight castle has mass ponynappings, including a filly, forced transformation of ponies into dragon/monster creatures, eternal darkness (inspiration for NMM's eternal night), the big bad threatening to decapitate Spike, and Sea Ponies (I kid on that last one, they're cool... Just ask Lyra or Applejack!)

      As for the new Fall playsets

      THIS MAKES PERFECT SENSE

      IT ALSO SCARES THE HORSE MANURE OUT OF ME...

      In 2011, Hasbro released The Royal Sister's Playset, which had Princess Celestia and Princess Luna in the standard size. They released the Fashion Style Pony Princess double set, that had Fashion Style Celestia and Luna. They also released the massive Canterlot Castle play set that had Shine Brite Princess Luna, a glitter mane Pinkie Pie, a stupid cardboard castle, and a ton of useless accessories.

      When season 2 began... Big surprise, The return of Princess Luna, 4 episodes in.

      Now, fall release of new Princess Cadance and Shining Armor toys, The shortly following Season 3...

      I fully expect Princess Cadance to appear early in Season 3. It makes perfect sense. Hasbro already did this... But it sets a scary precedent...

      ...

      A new Princess pony every season.

      ...

      Yeah... I just said that. Hasbro wants to sell toys. There are only so many rehashes of a Pink Celestia you can sell, and they don't respect Lauren Faust's Princess Luna... Who they already featured.


      The only way I can comfortably accept this, is if it's a political wedding with a foreign pony nation. Equestria has been more or less established by Hearth's Warming Eve as a nation. I'm OK with there being a Dragon nation, a Griffon nation, a Diamond Dog nation, and certainly other Pony nations.

      I'm OK with winged unicorns in the royal family, so long as true Alicorns are reserved for Celestia and Luna. The only other manner of acceptance I could have of full Alicorns would be if they come up with a VERY CONVINCING natural aspect for her to be the master over.

      The simple fact, is there will be an ever growing royal family of Alicorns/winged unicorns so long as this show continues to have seasons. Hasbro wants to sell toys, that thing it's so well known for doing... being as how they ARE a toy company.

      It is in their best interest to release new princesses every year, to keep up sales.

      Unfortunately, we end up having to just deal with it...

      And that's why I hope they are princesses of foreign nations... So they can come in, have their episode, and get gone!

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    141. All I know is that they better keep running this show for a LONG time to come. I wasn't a fan of G1-3.5 but G4 is amazing. I think G4 really hit home with old fans and created an absolute ton of new fans. It would be wise for Hasbro to keep THESE characters specifically going as long as possible without making it feel drug out. I honestly wouldn't be disappointed to see G4 run for 5+ seasons. In fact, it would make me extremely happen to know that it would run that long. However, all good things must come to an end eventually. We know that Hasbro will try to rewrite everything again and make a G5 at some point. I just hope they put that off for as long as possible. They really got the characters perfect this time, and they should roll with it as long as they can.

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    142. Even if this isn't a movie, they totally need to do a full length MLP film. I would just keep on smiling forever.

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    143. @Ki

      I've watched four episodes of G1. I watched Escape from Midnight Castle, and Escape from Katrina (I think that's what it was called). Beyond that I saw two episodes whose names I can't remember. One involved a couple of monkeys that kidnapped one of the ponies, which seems a common theme, and the last wasn't an episode so much as it was the My Little Pony movie with the Smooze.

      Midnight Castle actually performed better than I ever anticipated, and I actually would not mind seeing Tirek show up again, actually, because he was a Badass. That said, every single one of the ponies, as well as Megan, the Moochick dude, and pretty much every element of the plot that DIDN'T have to do with Tirek, was all average at best. The other ones... The Movie was okay when it focused on the Witches, but it worked under the delusion that the ponies were the interesting characters and the more interesting villains got so little screentime, and pretty much everything else about the movie was just awful. The Smooze song was kinda catchy, though.

      The other two were just utter failure. The Katrina one was all over the place and pretty much everything about it made me want to gouge my eyes out with a citrus spoon. Same with the Monkey one.

      Now look... I'll grant that G1 was at least TRYING to make something of itself, but the big problem in the way was a real major anti-progressive view of girls. The result was that every single villain was an utter incompetent, with the sole exception of Tirek, so as 'not to scare off the poor little girls.' The contrived writing and utterly boring situations resulting from it... yeah, I do call it safe and cuddly and non-confrontational. That was the approach taken by the writers.

      If they had steeled themselves up a little more, G1 could have been something really REALLY good with a legitimate feel of adventure and danger, but it falls flat because of the poor writing that they enacted to try and make everything safe for young girls.

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    144. @Dusty the Royal Janitor

      I'm not sure how you can say that every villain was utter incompetent when you haven't really seen that much of the old cartoons. Also, it's not as if the villains in FIM are brilliant either. Discord just standing there, going "hey, just fire your lasers at me" was pretty dumb.

      Frankly, to me G1 did have a feeling of adventure and danger. I have seen those ponies go through a lot more hardship than what i have seen in G4 so far (and i doubt G4 ponies will ever get to endure that much). It might not be your cup of tea but i don't think it's correct to call this show simply "safe and cuddly". It's not anymore "safe and cuddly" than G4 is. The show that has a lesson in nearly every episode and that keeps telling you about the power of friendship. How is that not safe and cuddly? Heck, what's wrong with cuddly anyways? XP

      When i think of "safe and cuddly" i think of G3. Where there was no real conflict at all and no dangers. (Though it's important to note that the target age was very young i guess.)

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    145. If there was a movie we woulda heard about it by now. C'mon.

      I think the "its a storybook/flashback" theories are dying tho.

      @Lupus Albus

      >Ugh, this whole Princess Cadence thing reeks of the horrible stench of marketing overruling the writers

      Yep.

      >something this show has managed to largely avoid

      Yep.

      >which was an essential part of how it gained such an audience.

      Indeed.

      >Now they are forcing in another alicorn or two, creatures which are equivalent to gods in this world, for the sake of her being a pretty princess and getting married.

      Yeah and when i said this weeks ago ppl were acting like that's no big deal and giving me this "Hasbro's always right!" bullshit

      >If this is actually played straight, I feel for Faust, because it goes so strongly against everything she stood for in making the show.

      If you appreciate this show for its feminism....

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    146. And I still say anyone watching G1, G2, G3 anything is nuts, full stop. Its not Batman: The Animated Series! What the fuck! Ya'll really wanna spend time on that creepy, bad animation with creepy, bad character designs, and just plain bad writing? Ya'll so enthusiastic about Ponies that you feel the need to...endure that? Is this like how some Hindus walk on coals or lay on nail beds? lol i don't get it. FIM IS G1 AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THAT OTHER STUFF IS DEAD TO ME, IT DOESN'T EXIST

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    147. The worst part about all this crusading against Cadence is that the anti-Cadence people are never gonna like, simply because she's an alicorn, even if her episode(s) is/are awesome they'll still never accept her and will just complain and hate and blame Hasbro for everything. I'm mean I have faith in the team to do a great job, even if it was she suggested by Hasbro.

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    148. <-- still grumpy over most of Celestia and Luna's uniqueness being shat on for what feels like a cheap cash-in. Also still refusing to acknowledge the new alicorns as canon, *at least* until they actually appear in the show; may even declare them "Fanon Discontinuity" if/when they do show up.
      ( http://www.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FanonDiscontinuity )

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    149. I'm sure the Cadence wedding thing is going to be the series finale. The toys are on a completley different schedule, they're not coordinated.

      As for a movie, it's not happening.

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    150. Toys are a large part of what pay the bills for this show. I haven't looked recently but I'm sure the ratings for MLPFIM are terrible, just like the Hub as a whole.

      If incoporating a toy as a chracter to make the Hasbro execs happy then so be it.

      Shows like Chuck and Hawaii Five-O have to do embarassing product placement to justify not getting cancelled, compared to that this is nothing.

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    151. @Justin As 've said before, they say that it "Breaks the show's canon"(Translation: My horribly unbased, uncreative Nightmare Moon origin fanfic) I wonder if it ever occurred to them that there might be winged unicorns that aren't immortal gods? We've seen only two, but that doesn't mean that Luna and Celestia are the only two.

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    152. Why are the Alicorns princesses and not queens ???? That's what I want to know. As far as I see, they're the rulers. Queen Celestia sounds a heck of a lot more regal than Princess Celestia.

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    153. Next question: Does a king and queen exist for Equestria ?

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    154. @Scott Muir
      Faust confirmed that there are no King's or Queen's that overshadow Celestia and Luna. Princess is used as their title, as, if I remember correctly, Disney basically stereotyped Princesses as good and innocent and Queen's as evil tyrants.

      Plus, Celestia's ruled for 1,000 years, and if there were a King or Queen, we'd have heard about them by now, no doubt.

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    155. @FlutterfanI wouldn't be so sure of that. Personally I figure that FiM probably has the best ratings out of a lot of their shows. I figure there's more people interested in the show and the characters on said show, than there is in the toys related to it, just a guess though.

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    156. @Flyinpenguin117 "Disney basically stereotyped Princesses as good and innocent and Queen's as evil tyrants."

      Which, if you think about it, means many Disney heroines end their movies eagerly starting down the road to oppressing the peasantry they used to belong to.

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    157. its important because its a NEW ALICORN
      A NEW ETERNAL BEING THAT CONTROLS THE FUNDAMENTAL DAILY LIFE ASPECTS OF EQUESTRIA!!!!!!1
      like, people thought the sisters were the only ones

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    158. Could just be the opening for season three. makes sense to me.

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    159. If a film is ultimately made, anything less than a 3 hour musical epic on IMAX 3D would be a disappointment.

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    160. Maybe Cadence is another sister of Celestia? I mean, the Mane 6/rest of ponykind was really surprised when hearing that Luna was Celestia´s little sister. Why shouldn´t the same count for Cadence?
      Then everpony will be *Your sister?* and Celestia *Why of cource. Or did you think Luna was my only sis?*. XD

      Also that way her power as alicorn can be explained easier since she´s of the same family/bloodline as Celestia/Luna.^^
      Maybe they even got more sisters, remember when it was said that she used the elements of harmony to banish Luna? Everbrony believes it meant that Celestia took the 6 elements to power her own magic to ban NMM to the MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON~
      But maybe her other sisters helped her when Luna gave in to her grief and jealousy, but it was just never mentioned in the books cuase that´s over 1000 years ago and the other sisters left Equestria to found their own countries, maybe some didn´t even did that and just traveled around the world.

      Well, that would be how i would explain Cadence existence in my fic.^^

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    161. Since we're on the subject of a FiM movie, what I'd personally like to see is a prequel staring Celestia, Luna, and Discord. Basically telling more about the princess' origins, how they foudn the Elements, and describing their original fight against Discord. That'd be sweet.

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    162. If this is just a marketing thing by Hasbro, shouldn't we at least let them know that it's not okay? They might think twice about doing it in the future if enough bronies get behind it.

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    163. @BestDefaultName
      Or they mat decide to forget catering to us like that message that was posted earlier this week suggested, again people are acting like this is the end of the show or that they're actively trying to screw us over, even before the episode with her in it is even aired. Now when the episode airs and turns out she does suck then all this hate might be justified, but since that hasn't happened yet all this whining and blaming Hasbro just makes us all look a little too self-entitled. I don't really think we should burn the bridge we just began building.

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    164. @Ki

      Alright you do have something of a point. It might not be fair of me to review G1 without having seen any more than four of the episodes. What I HAVE seen is at least ten reviews in various places on the internet about just how bad G1 is. Perhaps it's not fair of me to simply quote other peoples' reviews... but when the four things I saw all fall perfectly in line with what they said, and they all made me want to spoon a lade just to end the torment, I think it might be forgiven if I spare myself the rest of the series.

      One of the common themes of G1 (according to reviews) is that the villains are utterly incompetent... doing things like letting ponies out of cages to 'fix their machines' in some stroke of niceness, or leaving them in a big empty room with a bunch of fragile, evil equipment, or falling asleep at the guard station... things like that. And if every villain did this, then there was never any sense of danger. That's a problem. If there's no sense of danger or that anything is at stake, then your adventure, however hard you may be trying, feels meaningless and boring.

      There's nothing wrong with safe and cuddly. G4 is safe and cuddly. Safe and cuddly CAN be good. It's the fact that G4 writes characters so well that makes safe and cuddly work, which is another place g1 failed at, seeing how all the characters were pallet swaps of each other and all annoying at that.

      But when they pull out the danger they DAMN WELL PULL OUT THE DANGER. Did you see that Dragon in Owl's Well? Or Dragonshy? Or the Cockatrice? Nightmare Moon actually WON until the six ponies, who she had a right to think were insignificant, bumbled up and managed to stop her. Same with Discord. They had a right to overconfidence because they had already basically won. What about that Ursa? Or the Manticore? I'm sorry, but G4, as safe and cuddly as it is, writes danger (and characters in general) better. And that's what makes G4 an excellent show.

      G1 could not write danger to save its life (with the exception of Tirek), nor were its characters interesting or any more than pallet swaps of each other. The voice acting was crap and the animation was lousy. I can respect what G1 was at least TRYING to do... but it fumbled the ball.

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    165. but..she is....PIIIIIIINK
      BLEAARGH D:

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    166. @Justin

      I’m willing to give her a chance. ONE chance, but I’m willing to give it. But they’re going to have to properly explain just WHY she is an alicorn, and they’re going to have to be able to do it in a way that doesn’t either take a crap on Celestia and Luna whilst explaining it, nor can they ruin Celestia and Luna’s mysteriousness and radiating sense of awe.

      Basically, if they can introduce this new alicorn without the other two suffering character decay in some form or another, I’ll grant her her chance. Unfortunately this a) seems like a difficult task given just how easy it would be to have a third alicorn screw up the old two, and b) does not seem likely with a ton of Hasbro marketing shoving it down the throats of the FiM team.

      @Silverlight

      Probably what all of us are going to do... and hope to Celestia that Cadence never shows up again and is never mentioned again. That way we can all say it was a collective acid trip or something...

      @James Rye

      First of all, if they’re all sisters and there are no brothers, that’s got a couple undertones of sexism to it...

      Second, while I’ll grant you that making it into a full on pantheon could WORK (and even work well), It’d be smarter writing if they did it all at once in some big, enormous epic revelation of cosmic mythology or something. Not just “oh we’re going to have a third, out of freaking nowhere sister get MAAAAARRRRIIIEED!!!1 <3”

      And while I’ll grant you that other sisters bearing the elements of harmony as the first banishment of nightmare moon is actually a kinda cool idea, it doesn’t explain how they all just completely dropped off the map for two full seasons. I’m sorry, but the history book said “there were TWO regal sisters” not “There were seven regal sisters.” Why has everyone just outright forgotten about the beings of godlike power (or at least incredible superpony ability)? Just leaving to find other countries or to travel the world don’t cut it. People are going to have seen them and told about their exploits. And if they don’t HAVE any exploits, then obviously they aren’t going to be the awesome characters that we know Celestia and Luna are (history of epic battles with Discord and all), and their very presence will bring Celestia and Luna down to a level of mediocrity. So why has everypony forgotten about them?

      I will grant it as a possibility if they maybe left the planet entirely to travel the galaxy for 1000 years or more... but not much else.

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    167. @Beta-Carotene
      Fun fact. If there'll be a movie, it won't be called "My Little Pony: The Movie", because that was made in 1986!

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    168. @Flutterfan As for the toys... They ARE in fact HIGHLY synchronized to the TV series. The Princess Luna Toys were launched in August 2011 (the new princess Cadance toys are scheduled for the same time, next August). That left a month and a half for the season to start... Funny thing, is while bigger stores got all the toys right away, it took about 2 months for the toys to fully trickle to the smaller stores... and guess what happened next... Princess Luna episode.

      Hasbro has been selling toys for DECADES, and they KNOW what they are doing on the retail front.

      Same is true of the Pinkie Pie train set. It trickled into stores late last year, and look at what has become a recurring visitor to episodes since then... The train.

      Hasbro is VERY carefully timing the retail release of these toys to reach full market penetration very close to the time that hype for episodes FEATURING the toys air. For this reason, I have NO reason to expece anything other than the appearance of Princess Cadance within the first few episodes of season 3, if not be part of the opener. I doubt it'll close this season, as that leaves a gap of several months between episode appearance and toy...

      Children have SHORT attention spans, and Hasbro does not want to release the toy after the hype for the new character has already died down.

      Cadance will open season 3, or at the very least play very early in the season.

      There is no avoiding this. Like I stated in an earlier message. Hasbro is a toy company. They need to release new toys continually, or they will not make money. People don't buy a dozen of the same pony (unless they are a modder, LOL). They want new. Hasbro can release a hoard of randomly named recolors and HasbrOCs, but unless they are characters showcased in the show, the sales won't be spectacular.

      2010 - Celestia
      2011 - Luna
      2012 - Cadance
      2013 - Another princess???

      This is going to be sadly inevitable.

      I am hoping that the show establishes a clear difference between alicorn and winged unicorn... Like how Luna had a normal mane and tail when she was weakened and purified by the Elements of Harmony. I hope that other princesses, like Cadance are not at the same level as Luna and Celestia.

      Oh well... I just hope Studio B/Media DHX works their magic! They have yet to fail us...

      So lets have some faith.

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    169. @Dusty the Royal Janitor
      But then, G1 was made in the '80s and I, for one, don't expect much of animation from then.

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    170. @Dusty the Royal Janitor
      A chance is all I asked for, let's at least see the episode and see how she's handled before we accuse Cadence of being the bane of the show, personally I've never assumed Celestia and Luna were the ONLY Winged Unicorns, my theory is Cadence is from another nation, since they've made hints that Equestria isn't the entire planet, just merely single land/nation in it

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    171. Well, that delays the epic fanfic universe I was working on.

      Which means it's time to write a smaller story.

      Huzzah!

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    172. Hey everyone the new toy of Princess Cadence will mostly likely come out in Two Days! Feb 12-15, Hasbro will be displaying there new toy lines at Toy Fair 2012. In New York City at the Javits Convention Center in the show Room. Hopefully this helps.

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    173. 1. If you like FIM for its comedy, remember that a classical Greek comedy had to end in a wedding. And that weddings are funny.

      2. If you like thinking of Celestia and Luna as goddesses, then you should be totally happy about the inclusion of a "sacred wedding" in the storyline.

      3. If speculation makes your blood pressure rise, you'd be better off avoiding speculation. If not, speculate away!

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    175. It's not that I don't have faith in the writers to do their best; it's that I don't think their best will necessarily be enough. As it stands, they've been given a motorcycle, a ramp, and a shark, and I'm just crossing my fingers. Yes, they pulled off the train and the tortoise, but those aren't huge things, and there's no reason fhey WOULDN'T fit.

      As it is, as Faust intended, there are only two unicorn/pegasus/earth ponies, and they are both set apart as unique and special and they have a yin-yang balance going on. A third U/P/E pony would inherently throw this off. 

      There area, of course, ways to avoid this. One is that she's a phony, which doesn't seem likely. Another is that she's a fictional character, and an episode where they get sucked into a storybook could definitely be fun. A third is that she is a U/P/E pony from the distant past (as we already know Celestia and Luna have parents), which would be awesome, involving both more backstory and wacky time travel hijinks.

      If she'd simply been a unicorn like Prince Blueblood, we could have had a cool wedding story without all the messing with the canon.

      And yes, it's canon, not fanon, that is at risk.

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    176. I just remembered something... Didn't a few months back we hear something about problems behind the scenes? Something about one of the really big players on the FiM team basically getting pissed and leaving the show? Wasn't it Rob Renzetti? You know... the co-director that Jayson said here: http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/09/jayson-thiessens-message-to-bronies.html was one of the people, aside Lauren, who made the show what it was back in Season 1? And he left angrily for some reason?

      ...Guys... I'm starting to get a little worried. This seems like the sort of market meddling thing that might piss off a devoted creator enough to drive him to leaving... And if one of the core guys who worked directly alongside Lauren to make the show what it is is gone...

      Not gonna say anything yet but... Cadence may have ACTUALLY managed to kill the show... or at least started putting nails in the coffin...

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    177. @Flyinpenguin117

      It is entirely possible that Celestia is a princess AND a queen (and possibly several other titles), but prefers to use the lesser title for whatever reason. Similar to how Empress Victoria preferred to use her title of Queen of England.

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    179. Looking at Mr. Renzetti's record him leaving FIM was par for the course. Aside from My Life As a Teenage Robot, every show he's worked on has only been for at most two years which is the time he spent on this show.

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    180. almost flipped my coffee table with excited thoughts of a movie. then almost did it again at the thought of "what if it sucks".

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