A few days ago a post went up displaying two new ponies, Shining Armor and Princess Cadence. Apparently the duo is actually going to be showing up in the series. Andrew Francis is the voice-actor behind Braeburn, and recently tossed this up on his Twitter page.
I guess that also confirms a third Alicorn?
Other news from deep within the bowels of the internet also pointed at this particular episode being a season finale, we are sticking those under the rumor tag for now though.
Thanks to Jake for the heads up!
Princess Cadence (Source) |
339 comments:
Sounds awesome
ReplyDeleteSounds scary
ReplyDeleteNicely nicely
ReplyDelete@Overheat
ReplyDeleteawesome indeed.
A third Alicorn? What does this mean..
ReplyDeleteCan't wait
ReplyDeleteSounds fun.
ReplyDeleteOkay, I'll watch.
ReplyDeleteAnd I thought only Celestia, Luna, and our Empire's prince were the only Alicorns left after Discord's rage
ReplyDeleteOf course there's a third alicorn, Blueblood was unexplained and there's no way he could have been Luna's kid since she was away for a thousand years.
ReplyDeleteTime for new stories based on this post, bracing myself for a tsunami on FIMFiction.
By the way, please keep the Luna banner FOREVER, Seth.
Where are my pants?
ReplyDeleteOmahgawdsweetcelestia.......
ReplyDeleteI love Andrew Francis, didn't know he played Braeburn, awesome news! Now if only we can get Brad Swaile to voice a pony...
ReplyDeleteI really wouldn't be surprised if this winds up being a season finale. And I'd be curious to know what role the mane 6 would play in this. Oh, well. Nothing to do but wait.
ReplyDeleteI wonder what Princess Cadence's special talent is...
ReplyDeleteWell I'll be damned.
ReplyDeleteepic
ReplyDeleteAndrew Francis must be thrilled he finally got to do more lines then "eeeyep!" and "uuunope!"
ReplyDeleteI semi-raged when I first saw those ponies, then I relaxed once I realized that they were probably definitely parodying that royal wedding.
ReplyDeleteNow this.
I don't know what to think now. Guess it's time to have a nice long session of the Waiting Game.
Wha...wha...what? Interesting.
ReplyDeleteInteresting, now I'm curious.
ReplyDeleteIf this is the season finale, this just means that we get a season in the spring/summer, too. This negates the horror of the "third" season being shortened due to being the last. It's just a new layout, now we get Pony all year round. Rejoice.
ReplyDeleteNew alicorn is confirmed?
ReplyDeleteRaaaaaagggggeeeeee.
@Vermillion Twilight
ReplyDeleteI would hope so, seeing as he doesn't even voice Big Macintosh. :D
@RavensDagger
ReplyDeletescary but fun?
And there goes all fanon, forever. Every story that even TRIES to go into the origins of the Alicorns just got shot down.
ReplyDeleteDoesn't matter, keep writing em if they're good. But a lotta people aren't gonna like that.
@Vermillion Twilight
ReplyDeleteAndrew Francis doesn't voice Big Mac.
Unless of course it's just Shining Armor, and not Cadence, but that's pretty doubtful.
ReplyDeleteIm gonna laugh if this is like Celestia's/Luna's parents and this is how the war from the holiday episode
ReplyDeleteSo many posts so fast.
ReplyDeleteBut dat tweet, lawl. Oh you. lol
I know this is going to be really interesting as a whole. I'm sure it's also going to lead to a whole lot more fan work. But then again, almost everything seems to now. :P
Now following :D
ReplyDelete@impious
ReplyDeletewait there are only going to be three seasons?
also the end of season two is almost here?
well damn this show ended quickly
All he's confirmed is Shining Armor, he doesn't appear to say anything about the superfluous alicorn.
ReplyDeleteKate Middleton pony?
ReplyDeleteThe plot thickens...
ReplyDeleteFar, FAR beyond epic win!
ReplyDeleteWoohoo! Does that mean we get to see a wedding in the show?
ReplyDeleteToo many thoughts happening too fast, I need to go lay down.
ReplyDeleteInteresting, now I'm curious.
ReplyDeleteMore alicorns? Nice. Can we get a pic of Shining armor as well?
ReplyDelete<_< Why? Why would they do this?
ReplyDelete@Impious you understand nothing said made any sense right?
ReplyDeleteDon't know if I want another Alicorn, although I think I'm more on the side, "Don't want another Alicorn that is god-like in power"
ReplyDeleteMore Alicorns are fine, just don't want a, "Here's Jerry, he controls strife. This is Susan, she's in charge of love. Then there's Larry, he's in charge of all the Legos you step on in the middle of the night."
Basically, it starts to get ridiculous.
Shining Armor looks like what could be Vinyl Scratch's father
ReplyDeleteim not sure if i like this or not...
ReplyDeleteGreat, now we have to allow all the horrible alicorn OCs. :|
ReplyDelete@wackypony
ReplyDeleteto sell more toys
And here is my guessing: (if it really is a season finale)
ReplyDelete- Time Travel
- Discordian times
- Parents
you shall give me all the internets and a saphire cupcake if im right, k? k :D
That's it Hasbro is just trying to fuck with the fandom at this point
ReplyDeletesmells like direct to video special to me
ReplyDeletewell now, maybe this will get Hasbro to star making proper Celsetias now. unless thay want kids confusing her for the new alicorn.
ReplyDeleteMan......I DON'T WANT ANOTHER ALICORRRRRNNNNN.....I liked the solar sisters.
ReplyDeleteI'm going to whine for a bit...
So I'm guessing this is for Season 3? Otherwise it probably wouldn't make sense for a voice actor to just finish his role while the current Season is broadcasting.
ReplyDeleteWell you know. There's no way that there could be another...whaAAAAAAA? (imitating Megan's tone of voice in a certain Youtube clip)
ReplyDelete@Monster Hunter Brony
ReplyDeletethey need to work on the quality of them first, before adding more. <_<
I wonder what Faust's position will be/is on this
ReplyDeleteWHAT!?
ReplyDeleteoh god please be time travel. Although I say that to everything... I think I'm too used to Doctor Who
ReplyDeleteOh sweet Celestia. This... What? How can... Are you absolutely sure this is a new alicorn? This better be explained as something special and important, or else its going to destroy all fanon written so far.
ReplyDeleteThanks for posting Sethisto! Glad to have helped! :)
ReplyDeleteAnd now all fanon shall be shaken to it's very core.
ReplyDeleteWhy do I get the feeling that this was forced on the FiM team by Hasbro? like the obvious WTF train or Tank? It just doesn't feel... right. Luna and Celestia. Sun and Moon. Day and Night. their designs reflect that, that's how it is. Princess Cadence... I have no idea.
ReplyDeleteif she's the weather, she's already too late.
ReplyDeleteHas there been official art of a new Alicorn? Cuz if not, Princess Cadence could be like Blueblood(well, hopefully less of a jerk) meaning a distant relative of Celestia and Luna(IIRC, Blueblood is hundreds of times removed and he's still considered a prince)
ReplyDelete@A guy who likes ponies If Doctor Whooves gets his own episode, i'm gonna explode twice out of happiness.
ReplyDeleteid really like to see a drawing of shining armor :)
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure I want.
ReplyDeletehmmm not sure what to think.
ReplyDeleteBut I think Ill just wait till the episode to air before I make any desitions.
Tho it sounds like Hasbro saying we are realsing X product, so you must put it in the show.
I have this gnawing feeling in my gut that this is where FIM will jump the shark. But I'm admittedly biased, since I am a devoted worshipper of the holy trinity: Celestia, Luna and Nyx.
ReplyDeleteThis should be interesting, the statement implies they appear in s3...
ReplyDeleteTHEY'RE BLUEBLOOD'S PARENTS!!
ReplyDelete@Suroguner If she's weather the jokes have already been written.
ReplyDeleteRainbow Dash, "Hey Twilight, what do you call something that is obsolete and useless?"
Twilight, "I don't know."
Rainbow Dash, "Cadence."
I'm sticking with my guess from the wedding announcement post... Royal Wedding season finale in Trottingham, with the Mane six as bridesmaids and the CMC's as flower girls. Which means they have to introduce Shining Armor and/or Cadence beforehand, making it a mini-arc like the Gala arc from season one.
ReplyDeleteAnd again, a 2 god pantheon is kind of odd. Most father gods left a string of children and demigods all over creation. There might not be more hanging out in Equestria, but if their father was anything like Zeus then Celestia and Luna should have plenty of siblings out there somewhere.
Possibilities
ReplyDelete1) origins of the Alicorns episode (not very plausible, considering the original photos of Shining Armor and Cadence had them in close proximity to the main six, all wearing wedding regalia)
2) we're all fucked
Unless Princess Cadence is VERY well explained... well, we're going to have problems.
And she has a cutie mark that's VERY similar to Celestia's, soooooo... what the hell?
INB4 WEATHER ALICORN
ReplyDeleteCALLING IT
It will definitely be interesting, to say the least, I'm sure we'll have tons of fun with those two regal ponies.
ReplyDeleteAlso if I'm not wrong, and recalling what was said by the VAs on the interviews on EverFree Radio, they are currently recording season 3, which means that we'll still have to wait a long time to see them x)
And for the last... I wonder how many ponies will go to his twitter just to say "AAAAAAAAPLEOOSA!"
Jeez, Season Finale, that's ages off. I'll worry about it after we've atleast past episode 20.
ReplyDelete@Harwick
ReplyDeleteOr not if he's anything like Zeus' father. Kronos ate all of his kids.
:P
princess of the clouds anyone?
ReplyDeleteUGG apocalyps pony you have a tinker up there
Well we did see a globe in the last episode so maybe there are more alicorns ruling diffrent parts of there world.
ReplyDeleteWhy did you delete the original post?
ReplyDeleteAnd then they go to war with Equestria!
ReplyDeleteA new Alicorn?
ReplyDeleteSounds like Hasbro trying to push out some new characters, if you ask me...
Corporate Involvement usually never ends well. =/
Considering they have started voicing season 3, i guess we won't be seeing them in a LONG time..., just a heads up.
ReplyDeleteIt does seem like the original post was sent to the moon. If you search "shining armor and cadence" on google images you can find both still. And I think that Cadence image above just made up her Cutie Mark... she was in a wedding dress in the images we saw of her before, so you couldn't see her flank.
ReplyDeleteWelp. Time to panic.
ReplyDeleteWait. You guys. It ALL MAKES SENSE.
ReplyDeleteThis is why the Celestia figures were pink.
Discuss.
I like to wonder if Lauren is just now screaming WHAT THE F*** ARE THEY DOING TO MY PONY UNIVERSE?!?!?!
ReplyDeleteI wonder... what was Cadence doing when Nightmare Moon and Discord were running amok?
ReplyDeleteI like Vulcan's idea the most so far.
ReplyDeleteThis is probably the only time I've ever been *sorta* iffy on any decision Hasbro or the writing team have made. They better (and likely will, I'm sure) have a good reason to add in a 3rd alicorn to the universe. We've got the rules of day and night for crying out loud, I don't know where Cadence could fit in. The ONLY thing I can see happening is that *maybe* she controls the sunrise and sunset, but even then that's kind of lame... and we've seen Celestia raise the sun all on her own completely once.
I trust our writers, they haven't messed up on us that bad. Will be cautiously waiting and remaining hopeful to see how this turns out.
Here's the original image of the 2, for anypony that wants to see them.
ReplyDeletehttp://goo.gl/kWVj1
This has perked my curiosity, Not sure how I should feel about it, though. I wonder how they'll go about explaining a third Alicorn. Then again, they've never directly stated that Celestia and Luna are the only ones, just (given by the fact that they're the only ones that've been seen in the show so far)given us the impression that they're very rare.
ReplyDeleteBesides, this doesn't really confirm anything yet.Y'know, I'm not going to worry too much. Don't get your panties in a bundle, people.
Whatever the circumstances were surrounding this, I'm sure Studio B will be able to handle it. They know what they're doing. Who knows? They might be making this into something really interesting.
Also! Horrible OCs are still horrible OCs, whether they're Alicorns or not. You don't have to accept them any more than any others.
It's also possible that, instead of the character only being in season 3, that he's simply allowed to talk about him now that the news of his existence has broken (officially or otherwise.)
ReplyDeleteWe're getting some royal Canterlot functions this weekend... maybe they'll start dropping some references or even an appearance. Personally, I'm hoping that at least Luna finally gets to show up in Canterlot.
Burn all the fanfics.
ReplyDeleteAlso let's keep in mind the following:
ReplyDeleteAlicorn is a fan term, for the most part (technically it's another word for unicorn, IIRC). Outside of Celestia and Luna's special duties in controlling the sun and moon; winged unicorns may not necessarily be as special as we all think...
At least that's the perspective the canon seems to be taking. Then again, Celestia and Luna are immortal or at least incredibly long-lived, if that's not special, what is?
... Man this really is a curve ball.
"I wonder... what was Cadence doing when Nightmare Moon and Discord were running amok?"
ReplyDeleteWell, if I were to judge by her name, she was probably playing the fiddle, or some other musical instrument, while Equestria burned...
If only this was a pony based off of Lauren Faust...
ReplyDeleteI kid. I have no idea who this pony is yet, and the people behind MLP:FiM are going to make it magic anyways.
Wow, a third alicorn? The only other alicorn I wanna see is lauren faust, but this is cool too ^_^. Either way, it's not like were gonna see this episode for over a year, so can we all agree not to go TOO crazy with speculation??
ReplyDeleteIf the name is Princess Cadence, then I hope drums are involved.
ReplyDeleteok, ok, calming thoughts, calming thoughts. Lets see what we know...
ReplyDeleteCelestia and Luna are the ruling princesses. They control the sun and moon. Shining armor may or may not be an alicorn, and is most likely a unicorn (based on the image I've seen).
It looks like Princess Cadence has a sun and clouds as her cutie mark. She doesn't look evil and it is improbable she is at any point evil like Luna, so thats a bad sign (meaning she may not be overly special). I really wish I had more to go on by that cutie mark. It looks like a generic alicorn cutie mark with a sun and clouds, so Im not entirely sure it will be plot relevant. The clouds are controlled by pegasi, so that theory is impossible. It certainly doesn't look like she's an alicorn that is destined to save equestria or something... Argh! It's looking more and more like a third generic alicorn in the royal sister family! I can't think of a narrative that would introduce her in a way that makes any sense! I thought this post would get rid of my panic, but it's actually increasing my panic! Noooooo!
So I guess that pink Celestia was actually Princess Cadence in disguise.. >.>
ReplyDelete@Salzvatik12
ReplyDeleteThank you! Was scouring the archives and news posts trying to find it, to no avail.
dammit, universe.
ReplyDeletehere i was, all ready to get to work, and then you throw this nice little brony meltdown at me. and it's got all the ingredients for a good one! threats to precious fanon, speculation and inference turning into basis for panic, overarching sense of entitlement and ownership of the show...
why do you do this to me, universe?
@Grey Hoof
ReplyDeleteEVERYTHING MAKES SENSE NOW!!!!
I'm confused as to why this is a problem?
ReplyDeletehmm, i dunno about this, a third alicorn doesn't really fit in with alot of things we've seen so far, i'm guessing it's just for some commercial or something, i dunno, i don't think it'll show up in the show though...
ReplyDeleteIF they do however, i'm calling it right now: their from another empire, equestria is only a country and princess Cadence is the ruler of another one :)
A globe! That's it! It is the key to unlocking Equestrian geography and telling us once and for all whether any other "lands" exist! Or it could just be a non-political map... Sigh.
ReplyDeleteIn any case, Hasbro has been screwing with us for a long time. Remember the hype over Luna Eclipsed? It turned out they didn't mess her characterization up. So the new alicorn will probably have a good background story.
@ShadowCell
ReplyDeletebecause ponies.
Don't freak out quite yet. Shining Armor and Princess Cadence may be characters in a story, you know.
ReplyDeleteWhy Hasbro why
ReplyDelete@Rocker32703
ReplyDeleteThere are all sorts of openings in a pantheon still. A goddess of the sea, or of the harvest, or of love. The name would certainly suggest a goddess of music, perhaps.
All of these (except perhaps love) would pale next to the power of the sun or the moon, but that's never stopped other pantheons from including them.
How would you guy's react if you all learned that a third alicorn being revealed later was in Lauren Faust's plans all along? I'm not saying that it is, but come on guys, put a little more perspective on this
ReplyDeleteAlso, I for one welcome our new alicorn overlord
Maybe Candece is the Daughter of Celestia?
ReplyDeleteOr maybe just her Niece?
I'm confident the show will put out a reasonable explanation by the time the episode appears.
So many fanfics are going to pop up because of this, well before the actually episode comes out. Hopefully such people refrain from using the characters in fan fictions until their characters can be established.
ReplyDeleteARGLBARGLBARGLBARGL MY CANON!!!
ReplyDeleteehh, lets see how they pull it off.
additional members of the Royal Family might be interesting if done well.
I'm calling it now:
ReplyDeletePonykind created Alicorns to rule them after they agreed to stop fighting.
Yup.
Well........Damn I got nothing.
ReplyDelete*Shovels fanfics into the fire*
This is big news!
ReplyDeleteseason finales
ReplyDeletesoo,... bittersweet
that banner is awesome by the way
ReplyDeleteI'm actuly looking forward to this.
ReplyDeleteWeather this is hasbro being hasbro or LF master plain, I'm okay with this.
I'd actually feel relatively fine if Equestria was only one kingdom, and Princess Cadence was perhaps a ruler of another, nearby kingdom with their own ponies. Still wouldn't make total sense, assuming Celestia and Luna control Day and Night after all.
ReplyDeletePerhaps Equestria is an empire and Cadence could be the leader of a region within Equestria's borders? I forgot what the official term was, it'll come to me after I post this, I'm sure of it. But like, maybe she is the leader of a country/region that Equestria has dominance over, while recognizing that it is a seperate land at the same time. There's an official term for it, I hope I explained myself well enough.
I think that would be the best way for me to accept their being another Alicorn leader, though I'm definitely open-minded to other ideas. Still doesn't explain what her cutie mark speciality is.
Anyone else like my idea?
I wonder if she's related to the Saturn-like planet seen in the window next to Celestia in the episode openings?
ReplyDeleteLook for it next time you see an episode. Right before Celestia opens the scroll with the photo of the Mane Six inside, there's a stained-glass window to the right. You see the sun, a ringed planet with a moon, and then presumably Equestria at the bottom of the window (on a round planet, no less).
I also wonder where the Lesson Zero "mystery alicorn" fits into this...
ReplyDelete@Baron She doesn't it was an animation error
ReplyDeleteThey know what they're doing.
ReplyDelete@Rocker32703 That... Could work. Her cutie mark is a red flag though. It really looks like a generic cutie mark and that this pony has no special talent.
ReplyDeleteActually, how did we figure out the cutie mark? It wasn't shown in the original picture. Are we absolutely sure this image at the top isn't a fan drawing.
Did i read correctly a while back, stating that an some episode they worked on(season 3 maybe) was going to be not so well? I really hope this isnt it. My only ubsumption is that perhaps there r other countries than Equestria(seeing that they DO have a globe featuring different continents)and she would rule another. But that still wouldnt be fair, because Celestia and Luna controll day/night. There would be war! Hopefully its just some kind of mythological pony tale like nightmare moon! Idk. just throwing fish in a barrel.
ReplyDeleteBUT WAIT! Maybe she is a winged unicorn SEA PONY! You can't see the lower half of her body!
ReplyDeleteThe image is a fan drawing, and likely a completely made up Cutie Mark. The only real artwork we have seen of her was in a gown, so we never saw her mark.
ReplyDeleteThat's a relief at least. I couldnt think of anything that could be done with that cutie mark.
ReplyDelete@Baron
ReplyDeleteThat... would be utterly ridiculous.
I would be too busy laughing to rage across the internet.
Question if the Canon Alicorns (Pluto aside) does this mean the Alicorns are like the Gerudo as just have a male every X years and only females in-between?
ReplyDelete@Rocker32703
ReplyDeleteNot a bad idea. But if Equestria was an Empire it would be Empress Celestia & Empress Luna.
I'm kidding of course.
...Not sure if want...
ReplyDeleteWhy a third Alicorn, Why are the princes not Alicorns, Where is the queen and king, who's idea was this, What significance could these pony's have, did we really need to add new alicorns, could we not just dig deeper into the one's we currently have, I would love to get to know luna or celestia better, please please please don't let this suck please, just don't let this addition be bad, I don't want this being unimportant and unexplained
ReplyDelete@BlurThat's my gut reaction too - we've barely seen any canon development of Luna, they should do more with her and Celestia before they even think of expanding the pantheon.
ReplyDeleteBut this episode is a long way out and I still remain confident in the skill of the writers. We'll just have to see how things go when we get there.
I am not sure that "Alicorn" is necessarily synonymous with "Goddess."
ReplyDeleteThe bloodlines of Royals may be Alicorns (or, perhaps just FEMALE royals, since the males seem to just be Unicorns), but not ALL of them may be divine.
After all, none of the myths so far have mentioned any other Alicorns than the Sisters.
Also, even if all Alicorns are longlived/immortal, they don't have to be OLD, too. Cadence could be a 25 year old immortal.
So, all Goddesses are Alicorns, but the reverse may not be true...?
"Why are the princes not Alicorns, Where is the queen and king"
ReplyDeleteMatriarchy.
Others have stated it, but the problem with a third Alicorn, Cadence, is she seems too much of a, "To sell toys" character.
ReplyDeleteBecause it seriously has the makings of a meeting at Hasbro that goes like this:
CEO, "We need some new toys for the MLP:FIM product line. I heard little girls love weddings and what's better then weddings?"
Lacky, "Ummm"
CEO, "That's right, royal weddings. So what do we got in the show that can do that?"
Lacky, "Well, we do have two pricesses already..."
CEO, "You're not seriously considering that old mare Celestia. We're talking young girls here, no one wants to watch their grandma get married."
Lacky, "Well, there's..."
CEO, "Not that purple one all the Bronies are swooning over. Nah, we need something young and fresh. We need another winged unicorn princess, that's pink and young to have a wedding."
Lacky, "But sir, that really just seems we're introducing a cheap character that won't fit in the theme of the show and alienate some of the fans."
CEO, "Now you see where I'm coming from, push it, we'll call her Princess Cadence and she controls the weather."
Lacky, "But sir, pegasus already.."
CEO, "Why aren't you getting voice actors for Princess Cadence and Prince Shiny Tinfoil already?"
Mark my words, one day we shall see canon sea ponies. They must exist! Nopony had ever even thought of zebras before Zecora. And the talking sheep and donkeys and buffalo and cows confirm my theory that all equine-like animals in Equestria are sentient. Therefore there must be some place where they have their own civilization.
ReplyDelete@Jimperator
ReplyDeleteOr maybe Blueblood got his wings surgically removed. Unicorns are totally in this season!
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ReplyDeleteI've started two articles at the MLP wiki:
ReplyDeletehttp://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/Princess_Cadence
http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/Shining_Armor
Go beef them up!
@Quartz Poker
ReplyDeleteOh god...
Is this the pony cultural equivalent to circumcision?
Maybe Princess Cadence is from another country? I mean, there may be more than one equine nation in this version of Earth could there not?
ReplyDeleteEquestria isn't a world. It's one country. It's been called a country on the show, hence maybe Princess Cadence may be the ruler of a different nation/country.
That's my head cannon right now anyway. Looking forward to seeing what they do with this.
Also guys... we are still gonna have the same writers who have done awesome work so far, so let's wait and see what they do with it.
Maybe Princess Cadence is their cousin or something.
ReplyDeletePOSSIBILITIES:
ReplyDeletethey are from the distant past and the parents of Celestia and Luna. (time travel episode? BTTF shout outs?)
They are fictional characters to the show that are somehow important to the story line. (sucked into a storybook somehow?)
they are from a place other than Equestria.
Th
@palatank
ReplyDeleteIt's not confirmed yet if there will be more than three seasons or not. And no the end of season 2 is not almost here, it's not even halfway through.
@wackypony
ReplyDeleteWhy not?
@snowfi6916
ReplyDeleteI like the idea of different pony countries being ruled by alicorns. It's sensible.
But the whole "Celestia and Luna control the astral bodies" makes the concept of new alicorns feel off.
To expand on my earlier comment:
ReplyDeleteIf alicorns are always associated with celestial bodies in MLP:FiM, then there are room for (by my count) four or five alicorns-
1. The Sun (Celestia)
2. The Moon (Luna)
3. The World (???)
4. Unnamed Ringed Planet In Title Sequence (???)
5. Unnamed Ringed Planet's Moon (???)
Take your pick on which this Cadence character is. My bet, based on the colors, is the ringed planet.
my mind has been blown.. hasbro you so sneaky...
ReplyDelete@Vulcan539
ReplyDeleteShit your right! Ponies why haven't we analyzed the hell out of the landmasses of that globe!
Well, this could either kill my fic's backstory for the two, or serve to strengthen it...
ReplyDeleteEither way, I'll have to wait and see.
And I doubt this is the end of the season. First off, eleven episodes is an odd number to stop on. And second, I'm pretty sure a full 26-episode season was confirmed quite a ways back. Heck, we already know what the next episode's going to be, we have a rough air date, and we know it's the twelfth episode of a season.
@palatankWell, 65 episodes is usually the standard number for a modern animated series. IF that is the case here, maybe we should just be glad that we got 65 episodes of the mane six and Equestria out of it?
ReplyDeleteMY FANON IS DEEEAAADDDDD!!!!!
ReplyDeleteI trust Studio B knows exactly what they are doing. I thought Discord was going to be a stallion version of Nightmare Moon, and when I saw my first teaser clip of him, I thought he was a weak villain. Then I saw Return To Harmony Part 1 and was quickly blown away by what a badass he was.
ReplyDeleteI could live with more canon alicorns provided that only Celestia and Luna are goddess-tier.
ReplyDeleteIt's perfect really, it let's them have more of the race if they want 'em but maintains Celestia and Luna's power levels and dominance.
Besides, it's not like we don't already have examples of "more powerful than the average" unicorn and pegasi, what with Twilight and Dash. So if they want to make "mortal and mundane" alicorns, go ahead and let them.
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ReplyDeleteI really don't see what the big deal is having another Alicorn. It's already been established, by Faust herself no less, that other princes and princesses exist but have less power, both in magic and authority, than the Celestia and Luna. The existence of another Alicorn princess changes nothing!
ReplyDeleteNow is the time to start throwing out all these crazy world-building theories. If Season 2 has taught us anything, it's that Equestria is a very different and more complex world than what we previously assumed.
ReplyDeleteBy the way, if there was an alicorn ruler of "the World", wouldn't the Princesses be infringing on its territory?
@Dyxid
ReplyDeleteGood point there.
As I mentioned earlier, there is no "alicorn" in the canon, as the name has never been applied. They're technically winged-unicorns.
But it's clear Celestia and Luna are of a special variety of winged-unicorn. As such, perhaps there are just, as you allude to, lower tiers.
@Saddlesoap
ReplyDeleteAs far as I know, it has never even been officially established that the princesses are goddesses. This is merely assumed by fans because of their ability to control celestial bodies and long lifespan.
My guess is genetics were just kinder to her than they were to Blueblood.
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ReplyDeleteAll this silly fan-speculation over everyone's favorite saturday morning cartoon has been fun. But I must bid this blog adieu.
ReplyDeleteHave fun everybrony and don't take it all to seriously. Last thing we want is to morph into fanatics.
Writing fanfics right now without the series having ended prompts all this speculation. It's like writing for Star Wars and Lucas' retcons.
ReplyDelete(Mother? Long Lost sister and mother to Blueblood somewhere down the line?)
I acutally don't want another alicorn. I'd rather Celestia and Luna remain the only two. Oh well.
ReplyDeleteHu-buddah-tuh-WHA?
ReplyDeletea THIRD Alicorn?! I... I cannot comprehend the reaction I'm having to this. Anger? Disappointment? Eagerness at opened opportunities? Argh!
Where's the other story? The one with the screen shots. I can't find it anywhere.
ReplyDeleteMy theory: she's not an alicorn (all three races in one pony) but rather the combination of unicorn and pegasus. So occasionally there are normal ponies who happen to have the traits of any combination of two of the races, but Celestia and Luna are still the only two true alicorns.
ReplyDeleteFor one, in those pictures we saw, Cadence didn't actually seem to be any larger than a normal pony. The Shining Armor guy is taller, and he just looks like a regular unicorn. And then her hair isn't all magical like Celestia and Luna's either. So yeah, it would make sense that she's on a tier between alicorns and normal ponies.
So going by her cutie mark I'd have to say she's the princess of overcast days.
ReplyDeleteNo wonder she's been kept in the background...
I'm sensing a great amount of discord in the fan base. MUAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!
ReplyDeleteI don't like this. I don't like this at all...
ReplyDeleteMust keep an open mind... must keep an open mind... must keep an open... oh jeez I really don't like this at all! >_o
Oh well. No sense worrying about it quite yet, I suppose.
Huh, well there's a twist: a third [cannon] alicorn.
ReplyDeleteI think I'm missing something. When was a third Alicorn confirmed? The tweet only confirms Shining Armor.
ReplyDeleteI for one welcome our new Alicorn God-Queen
ReplyDeleteSeriously I have no problem with another Alicorn since they rank up to angels rather than gods in my head canon (long lived yes, very powerful yes, omnipotent no, immortal unlikely, omniscent not at all) and more than two angels are alright by me
1 more thought. Maybe there's an Alicorn for every element like in that Avatar cartoon.
ReplyDeleteLuna - Water
Celestia - Fire
... - Earth
.. - Air
And the other two elements
... - Space
... - Consciousness
@BestDefaultName Apparently there was a post including screenshots somewhere. However, I cannot find it and neither can anyone I've asked about it. It is possibly in one of the nightly roundups?
ReplyDelete@Crunch Nugget She's an abomination! Burn her! Burn her! (I'm kidding by they way)
ReplyDeleteI'm having a lot of mixed feelings over Cadence, think it's more an uneasy feeling and I might just be tired and not open to new possibilities.
I only see two possible things Cadence could be. She's on level with Celestia and Luna, which as stated you open that door too wide it leads to ridiculousness. How many are there and who exactly is top dog, so to speak. Equal rule with so many is a problem.
Other possibility, she isn't of the same level as Luna and Celestia. It really makes her character lame and if just made to have a Royal Wedding in the show, she's a throwaway character then in my opinion.
Will have to see, but my gut is telling me this is something very bad.
sooo many dead fanfics...
ReplyDelete*Uses classic Star Wars Quote*
Wow, this is interesting. Can't wait to hear more about the mysterious alicorn! /)^3^(\
ReplyDelete@Bronies who are freaking out: Ah, quit your whining and worrying will yah? Since when have the writers ever made an epic blunder? We all know how this is gonna turn out; everyone's gonna get hyped and worried and worked up about how awful it could be......then calm down when the episode hits and the third alicorn is explained well and she fits in with the universe and it's all good. We saw it for Luna, we'll see it here. Even IF they were forced to put her in by Hasbro and they hadn't planned for her, the writers aren't stupid. We really don't know all that much about Equestria, and as such it's a flexible universe; they'll find a way to put her in in a way that makes sense. Have some faith in the people who brought you this show in the first place, eh? ^_^
Where's the other story? The one with the screen shots. I can't find it anywhere.
ReplyDeleteShe could be seen in a Flashback or be a fictional character within the show (Storybook plot).
ReplyDeleteMy guess is she's the ruler of Trottingham. Judging by Pipsqueaks accent it's probably a separate nation from Equestria.
ReplyDeleteEach nation might have it's own alicorn monarch.
Maybe she has no special powers?
I'm thinking the whole raising the sun and moon thing was a power Celestia and Luna gained after they defeated Dicord with the elements of harmony. Since I remember them saying he was the ruler before they rose up against him. If that's true then the concept of sun and moon rising at certain times wouldn't really happen with Dicord ruling.
And if I'm wrong? She'll probably appear in two episodes at most then we'll never hear from her again.
I don't know how I feel about this
ReplyDelete@Jimperator
ReplyDeleteAmusingly, my suggestion also works to create an aire of legitimacy to alicorn OCs ...with a twist!
Such OCs are indeed super-special rare, given that the show has proven that there's either not very many around or they don't make a lot of public appearances. But hold, one's alicorn now has no excuse to be stupidly over-powered because there's lower power-tiers that may go as far down as having only the most basic of magic and weather control.
I've spoken elsewhere recently about my problems with over-done OCs (especially the alicorn ones) so it's kind of funny that Hasbro suddenly swoops in and nixes the issue.
To be honest people, I liked the series better when it was AN OPEN CANVAS.
ReplyDeleteWhat do I mean by this? It's where you could, iunno, CREATE YOUR WORLD within the series.
Like with Faust, it was a free project, she could do -anything- with it. We all jumped in to My Little Pony like it was MS Paint and we were handed the coloring tools.
Now? Too many rules, too much "THIS IS CANON NOW, FOREVER."
Soon, we're gonna have this fandom hardcore into what was in the show like it was federal law.
I can see why many of the My Little Pony staff started bailing.
I'm kind of hoping for it to be some cleverly well written episode in which one of the mane six falls asleep and pulls an Alice in Wonderland and she pictures herself and the rest of the mane 6 and the CMC and maybe even Celestia and Luna at a mythological wedding in their mind and they wake up at the end. It would be one hell of a writing experiment, perhaps a new writer's vision or maybe a veteran writer's shot in the dark so to speak. But heck that's my head-canon but if it is something that isn't dreamed up or a story or maybe even two ponies which were deemed mythological and through the actions of celestia and the girls they somehow conjour them back to existence. Possibly the original rulers before discord who were banished to the saturn planet in the title sequence and have been brought back and would like to return to their planet. Still would prefer them to not be existent but I was afraid when Luna's mane was different and discord was introduced but the writers always pull through and create gold whenever hasbro may or may not be forcing toy ideas on them. For instance, people say Rainbow Dash needing a pet was a toy idea (personally I think it was to give Rainbow Dash a companion to play off of but each to his own) if this is the case they turned "ooh pets we must have pets for moar toyzz!!!1" into a 22 minute animal deathmatch and a 4 minute Rainbow Dash/Fluttershy broadway number. I have incredible confidence in these guys and I would assume they are pretty resistant to hasbro forcing ideas on them remember Jayson has said before "Why fix what ain't broken right?" and I can only assume they are not trying to "fix" the Celestia and Luna goddess symbolism. But my lord I have typed way more than I thought i was going to so there's my obnoxiously long wall of text I guess, it rarely is used but it happens. But whatever they want to do is fine by me should work out for the best of us.
ReplyDeleteTL:DR don't over-react before we have seen anything but speculation rumors, images, and tweets who knows what certain ponies looked like before they got into the show. Hey, for all we know Prince Blueblood was originally an alicorn prince. :P
damn what did i miss? bronys be trippin. this cant be that bad can it?
ReplyDeletemy guess is that hasbro forced studio B on this one
ReplyDeletethe same way that Faust could't make blueblood a duke and Celestia a queen which makes me sad
why hasbro why?
and to be honest I wouldn't be surprised with the trottingham idea after all why was pipsqueak introduced in that way? he was JUST in that episode as a "hey im a british pony look at me crickey jaffa cakes!"
still doesn't explain why she is an alicorn and JUST a random royal unicorn (since blueblood was labeled as a relative of celestia and he isn't an alicorn)
besides if I recall correctly on her deviant pague (a while ago like 5 to 6 months) Faust said that Luna and Celestia were the onli alicorns so this is something that was obviously changed after she left and again probably forced down by hasbro
My bronies, just calm down, it's not like the end of the world, it's just another character that will confirm that Celestia and Woona are not the only alicorns in existence and maybe we can catch a glimpse of Woona's and Celestia's family...
ReplyDeleteIf you'll excuse me, I will enclose myself in my "Everything is ok" Bubble.
...
*Began to play "Betrayal" By Akira Yamaoka, in his MP3 player.*
WE ARE DOOOMED!!!! DOOOOOMED!!!!
damn did I miss a shitstorm?
ReplyDelete@Huundee Bronies have decided they hate Princess Cadence, even though we know absolutely nothing about her. ;P
ReplyDeleteEven I have to admit, it's what is running through my head that is bothering me, not any concrete facts about the character.
Ya'll are over reacting for sure.
ReplyDelete@Saber456
ReplyDeleteThe series has never been an open canvas. They've been building on it and adding new things since the beginning, this is nothing new.
Guys. Guys... My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic... THE MOVIE!
ReplyDeleteI'd say an entire episode about a royal wedding sounds boring, but then again...
ReplyDeleteLast year I would have said an episode about a slumber party, taking care of a sick bird, passing out tickets to a party, or making pretty dresses sounded pretty boring too. So I'm just gonna sit back and soak up the awesomeness that I'm sure it's gonna be, y'all should do the same.
Oh and for all the drama queens, here's a clip for you
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUAHy6aZMok