And then Mojo murdered Nyx for she is a terrible character from the most overrated fic in the fandom who most certainly does not deserve post on EQD featuring her MONTHS after her story ended and things were great! THE END.
but everytime there is an episode now people go like "OMG THIS MAKES FALLOUT EQUESTRIA CANON/NONCANON ARHEAJFEAGSJL" and I just face palm, it's fans are getting as bad as Past Sins fans.
FO:E IS A FAN FICTION, LIKE ALL FAN FICTION IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CANON, ENJOY IT FOR WHAT IT IS.
It was good, my sound is a bit iffy but that's on my end.
I'd quite like to see things like this pop up for other fics and such though.
I liked past sins though all the hype around it can annoy me sometimes, the same can be said for everything though, the arguments they produce when someone inevitably disagrees gets on my nerves.
When I assisted Pen Stroke in writing Past Sins, both it's very bad original version and the much more polished revised versions (with the help of many pre-readers and editors who also deserve a lot of recognition for their help and honest opinions), I had no idea it would get this much attention, both positive and negative. I'm a pessimist at heart, so I tend to worry excessively about the critics and my people-pleaser nature makes me want to write and rewrite the story until everyone or at least 9 out of 10 people would like the story.
All that said, it still stuns me when people take the time and effort to draw fan art or make fan music and I'm honored they have taken the time to do so. Pen Stroke as, unfortunately, already gone to bed as I'm typing this but I'm going to send him an email with this link so he sees it. If I know him as well as I do, he'll be just as stunned and honored that another talented musician has done something like this.
I've been rambling for far too long, so let me just finish off by saying: Thank you, thank you so much. And while we may not be getting back to that revision or side stories we promised as soon as some people would like, we do appreciate your patience and readership and hope we can entertain others with our works, be they side stories to Past Sins or other projects.
I've not read the story truthfully. So I was perhaps a little lost on the story itself in the video. But I really liked the beautiful music. The music was my favorite part. But I think overall it was nice.
That was a nice summation of the first chapter, although the different art styles put me off just a little. Not to say I didn't enjoy it (4 stars), but it would've been better with consistently styled pictures by a single artist.
As others have said above, there are other fics out there, besides Fo:E, that deserve the kind of meta fan-works Past Sins has received. Did "It's a Dangerous Business Going out Your Door" ever receive this kind of attention? Or "Half the Day is Night"? "A New Breed"?
@CTVulpin Indeed. Dangerous Business was the first fanfic I ever read, and my favorite. If only it received the attention from artist's other stories did, there is a lot of potential.
Self-insert? How? All Pen Stroke did was take a very general idea (what if the essence of Nightmare Moon from the fragments got reincarnated as a filly?) and ran with it. How is that self-insert?
Yes, please. Do make fan art/fan music for these and other great stories. I would love to see more work for Fallout Equestria or maybe something for that Hangover Crossover and don't forget a personal favorite when it comes to comedic crossovers - Best Night Ever.
As much as I do like seeing that some like Past Sins, I would be much happier if the ratio of fan-produced work was more balanced in the fandom.
*laughs* Sorry, but Nyx isn't massively-accepted in my opinion. That would be Littlepip. Nopony hates Littlepip nor should they.
And of course Fallout Equestria is better. That's Pen Stroke and I's favorite story by a mile. It makes me both mad and sad that the biggest reason most people haven't read it yet is because it's "too long".
I knew this would happen, I do wish we could avoid these comment wars and be constructive, out of all these comments hardly any of them have anything to do with the video itself.
How I wished my sound was working properly, I really can't give a proper opinion with the background noise i'm getting.
Hoorry Sheet, one of my pieces getting used in a PMV...not really sure what to say since I never expected that.... so, Woooooo! lol
it's @2:27
But, c'mon guys...it's just a story; a pretty heart warming story at that. Can either like or dislike it, but all the hate seems rather ridiculous. Besides, we already saw what the Windigos are capable of AND what fuels them...
And before the Windigos get here, just remember guys: We're ALL Bronies. Who the hay cares who likes what? It all boils down to opinions, and the only point in EVER arguing opinions is either trolling or arguing for the sake of arguing. Just drop it and quit hating on each other.
They're both damn good stories too, so wtf is with the hate anyway?
That was the first Pony fanfic I ever read. And I just tonight got my little brother to start reading it. He's of the age where he needs to consume lots of healthy literature, and he's loving it.
That story needs the kind of recognition that "Past Sins" gets. Which is why I'm drawing it some fanart in my free time.
Anyway, I liked this video storybook. It needed at least a couple more images, but since they were drawing on fanart there probably wasn't anything as specific as they needed.
I have a lot of free time coming up over the Holidays. Just in the name of fairness, I'll give Past Sins a chance and read it all the way through.
And at the troll... I'm sorry, but you're a terrible troll. Real trolls are subtle, masters of misdirection and manipulation. You make a fine fool, though. I'll give you that.
Time to love and tolerate the *bleep* out of this post. I like Nyx,] and the story behind her regardless of how unconventional it would be to try to implement her into the actual kids' show. The only overrated characters in this comment section are a green, large-brained monkey and a draconequus. Haters gonna hate. Ponies gonna pwn. The world goes round and round. For there is no up and down. He he he he he.
well for one Im hating because it's amusing me to hate, and judging by all the comments about "how accepted Nyx is" and whatnot I would say iv been fairly successful.
second of all I disagree that Past Sins is a good story.
Fallout Equestria however, despite not having finished it yet is.
though I still have a hard time with it sort of due to a general distaste of grimdark ponies.
I more or less outright said "I AM TROLLING" in like my second post, I am fully capable of being a subtle troll if I wanted to be but here im just having some cheap fun.
really I have a hard time understanding why anyone would WANT it to be canon regardless of how much they like it. I mean what the hell? why do you WANT Equestria to turn out like that?
I dislike Nyx as a character, I thought that lots of the characters acted OOC at times and had a firm grasp on the idiot ball throughout most of the story among some other reasons, also it's Fans can be annoying.
but really looking back on it I should have never read the story, I was bound to dislike it due to ultimately I do not like the concept of "Nightmare Moon reborn" or whatever you want to call it nor do I like the idea of Nightmare moon being seperate from Luna as I feel it cheapens both of them.
Actually, no, I don't have time to chat about fanfiction right now. It's 2 a.m. and I have work in the morning. Perhaps next weekend. Until then, good evening Gentlemen.
Bless you good sir. Like I said, I WANT to see other fan fiction get more recommendation.
Also, if you do read Past Sins, all I ask that you keep in mind that it was written before season 2 aired and was, at the time, only based on the knowledge we had at season 1 plus some minor speculation. Pen Stroke and I will be making minor revisions to incorporate the season 2 canon once season 2 is finished, since we're the kind of guys who are insane enough to do something like that to a fan fic.
I enjoyed the video. The music seemed to go well with the story and art.
I happen to have really liked Past Sins.
I've not read Fallout Equestria, not because of it's length, but because my understanding is that it's a crossover with a video game I've never played, will never play, and thought looked boring as heck when I've seen others play it. No interest in postapocalyptic ponies.
@Batty Gloom Uh, yes he is. Most of his fans only like him because he has the same voice as Q. Less then half of those actually know who Q is. And those fans want him to return? What is wrong with you people? Psychological brainwashing should not be repeatedly placed into a kids' show for any reason. You may see his methods as more humane than murder but buddy, there are fates worse than death. Living lies and torment is one such fate.
For those of you who read this and go TL;DR let me give you the fast version. Discord = Douche.
Lol, go to post I can't chat, reponse to earlier question gets answered. Heh.
And @Mojo. Fair enough reason to not like it. Although in retrospect, trying to get cheap laughs here on EQD is probably not the best place to do so. You're more likely to get a better response from one of the many threads on /b/, or perhaps one of the random forums out there. I'm sure there's a Nyx forum somewhere that would truly detest you.
As it is, I much prefer the situations to whatever the characters act like anyway. Good example being those "RD dies or is horribly maimed or blah blah blah" stories. There are about 13 billion of the damned things, and I'll read every single one of them, JUST because I want to see how well the author can pull off the disaster and how the characters react to it. It's always better when they act IC, but it can be fun even if they're not.
Point is, enjoy it for being a story, not as a continuation, unless it's strictly meant to be so. Foxbadger out.
it's what ya signed up for when you joined THE INTERNET BABY! YEAH!
really though the whole "love and tolerance" thing was just meant to be a joke and an anti trolling thing back on 4chan it pretty much meant "ignore the trolls, or treat them decently"
Past sins was an above- average story, 5 star in my opinion... Though I've become a bit numb regarding trolls and kind of just chuckle when I see them go about their shenanigans
And about FO:E... I dare say I am more a fan of that fic than MLP:FiM itself... It's the most hardcore-fan I've gotten about a work of literature since the Silmarillion... I don't mean to say it's on the same leage in literature... I'm talking about the scale of my love for the books only.
@Bombedrumbum You kiddin'? I couldn't drop the Silmarillion till my head hurt every night XD I ansolutely loved it. Especially the story of Beren and Luthien (I tend to fansqweak everytime I see the extended Fellowship of the Ring film in the part where Aragorn sings about Uthien and Beren)
Man, I so need to read "The Children of Hurin"... haven't gone book-shopping in years!
power on through man, I'll admit at times Tolkein can get over-descriptive and whatnot but that is because in all of his Middle-Earth works he was doing more then writing stories, he was building a world.
I'm reading Past Sins right now and I must say that I am astonished. There are moments when its author went the easy path but most of the work is simply brilliant. The fic almost equals Blood is Thicker than Friendship.
I wonder if MLP team could be convinced somehow to make it into a stand-alone movie. All young mothers would go to see it in theaters like 10 times every week o) Also Nyx is a great marketing potential (tet's not fool ourselves - MLP FiM's sole purpose is to sell toys and that's why previous generations are so bad).
I keep hearing the name Nyx everywhere. I'll have to give that one a look. So the name of the fic she's in is "Past Sins", eh? Knowing the name of the fic will sure as heck make finding it easier!
that version of how Twilight took her in without so much second guessing is why I fell for that story. Great work on that video the music brought back good memories of the fic <3
Haters can hate, but it was a great story overall. Just needed a bit of reworking to be less repetitive. You can almost skip a whole paragraph in some chapters and not miss anything important, at least when the pity party started up.
To those that have never read the story, go on and check it out it's still good. Could have been better but that is MY opinion.
Also, a thank you to Pen Stroke for sticking with the story through to it's end and I guess Batty but idk what part she was involved in :P
Also what is with all the new "Pen " authors popping up all a sudden :P seen like 2-3 so far in the past month alone I believe. People need more creative 'Pen' names xD
On the subject of the video: I love every song Yourenigma has posted to youtube, and this is no exception. I just hope a download link gets posted soon.
I felt that the text was a bit too sparse to get some of the important story bits across (Twi's reluctance to take Nyx home in the first place comes to mind), but I guess that wouldn't have fit in the pacing of the song or the vid and had to be left out. I'm a little curious as to why a pic of Nyx post-cutiemark was used, though. That said, I still loved a lot of the art selected to convey the story, and it all seemed to fit fairly well. A lot of my old favorites made it in, so I'm happy about that.
Something I don't get: why do people still respond to Mojo? He has stated on multiple occasions that he just shows up in these places to troll fans of Past Sins and that he hates the hype it has received and hates the story for perceived OOCness. Nopony is going to convince him otherwise. Can't we let the sad, strange little man fester in peace? @ChaosDX1Here's a link to the Past Sins tropes page, which in turn has a link to the EqD post. And, before you ask, Twilight does not get hanged. @Batty Gloom Disregard the hate. The story you helped Pen Stroke craft has inspired somebody else to write a beautiful piece of music and put together a video to help retell the story. That is an accomplishment that I aspire to.
That part in the video takes place after Twilight had recently been rescued by the Princess and the Guards, yes spoilers sorry, the original version was slightly dark but not grim. It was some great moments in it.
They aren't there now but a newer less dark characterization of an over paranoid and protective Celestia was changed to a more kinder understanding mind twisting Celestia. And to be "De-Spelled" I think that wording was removed as well.
If you like stories with safety nets but do it in a way that makes you THINK something bad can happen then this fic is for you. I will give Pen serious cred for having the patience to try and please people so they stop hating on his great story. To rework 13 chapters is no small feat =P
Story went pretty much unchanged though so both versions are still good. My only problem is that I just have this nagging feeling now like I'll never know how the original story would have flowed like had no one been so umm bothersome and critical of Pen Stroke's story. I honestly wish there was two complete versions like the RATED G and PG 13? :P
I talk too much but yeah trust me it's still a great read. This for being one of those RARE non-ship stories that actually get your attention and keeps you wanting more!
Durr~ well I think I revealed my main reason for my dislike enough on EqD. Now people start commenting on the music video PLEASE!
Also /d'aww at the last 2 pics. It brought back all the mushy feelings that made me fall for for the story.
In the original she was hesitant but not so overly paranoid. She had her suspicions but the real Twilight would never have left a filly in the woods, in the rain, in a thorny bush and in the EVERFREE FOREST of all things. I believe that hesitance can just be added to her inner thoughts, which idk if it was some how changed (doubt that) all her doubts and hesitations were never spoken words but thoughts we peeked into, thus no reason to spoil the video with more text.
People tend to think faster then they reason. And thus Twilight's doubts were over shadowed with her protective instincts to rush to the Filly's aid when she saw her wounded and afraid. Even if she knew what she finds out later I doubt she'd a left NMM there anyways.
"It doesn't systematically flanderize and destroy Rarity's character, and the entire fic-canon doesn't bend over backwards to accommodate Nyx," they say.
"Nyx is a defensible character that isn't a soulless Mary Sue," they say.
Meaning no offense to the efforts of the writers, while Past Sins may have its strengths, I cannot forgive how mercilessly it destroys canon. For me, the entire appeal of fanfics is character interpretation and world-building, and Past Sins is unforgivable in those areas.
I love it how the majority of comments are completely unrelated to the video. Really, bronies? Arguing over a fanfic? Biting the trollbait? Ridiculously disappointing.
I thought Past Sins was a mixed bag, but the song in the video? - a download link would be very much appreciated, so very much.
Look at the vocal minority being its loud usual self. Not surprised to see Mojo being the loudest voice of said minority, again. So much hate over a work of fiction. lolwat. That is even more mundane reason than for example, fighting over what console is the best.
EqD really needs to hurry up with swapping the comment system so that these few unwanted inviduals can be dealt with.
@Batty Gloom Tell Pen to quit using attention hoarding images as well as writing soap opera stories if he wants less hate. There's a reason why the tiny fandom for Past Sins is so hated and people call them unintelligent pricks, it was right when the kids joined through the summer. If the fanfic would of been invented somewhere in February or April then it wouldn't have got so much attention or hate.
If you closely look, you'll see that most people from the summer are the posers which put everything under the label of Troll and practically tell the people to love everything than try to rate it.
Wow, the things that go on when I've gone to sleep. I think its high time I weighed in on this for myself.
Firstly, I just want to thank the person who made this, to thank all the people who make the fan-art and fan-music for Past Sins. It always blows me away, and I can't say how much it touches me.
Now, if I can say one thing about the discussion going on in these comments, it would be this. I wrote the story because it was a story I wanted to write. I'm glad some people enjoy it, and I respect that some people don't. Beyond that, I would just ask people to remember its a fan-fiction and not to take it so seriously. Enjoy Past Sins and the whole community for what it is, a celebration of an amazing show.
This comment thread went careening off the tracks a loooong ways up.
as for the video that this post was made for: it's nice and despite the inconsistent art styles, If there were more of these to tell the story, I'd watch them, and recommend them. Just my taste, but longer vids taking more liberties with pacing would appease me greatly. With a dedicated artist and some free reign (neigh-sayers gonna neigh say) it would be all the better. As for this one alone: The music is fitting, and the video serves to bring me back to the story as I remember reading it. Thanks.
I read Past Sins. I liked it. I don't know of, or even care at heart to subscribe to the opinions of those people who are adamant one way or the other for it. I keep in mind to appreciate the work and struggle Pen and Batty put into making it, and then revising it as they did.
As someone who's got 100+ pages of rough fanfic that's maybe not even halfway done before I can even begin to edit, I think I can genuinely say I know that it's not easy to keep at it. I would be utterly satisfied to even make pretense of the par you made when I finally get to the end of this long trudging. Seeing completed works like yours helps with perspective. Its a humble inspiration.
It's all right to not like it. It's all right to like it.
For me, it was a nice story. Criticism is for building stories, but perhaps not enjoying them. This one definetly gets picked through by a coarser brony comb than most. I loved the concept at the root of the story. "Can Nightmare Moon be redeemed?" After that, the lesser details can be accepted, torn through and/or dismissed as you please.
Yes, I agree that Nyx has shades of Sue. So what? I don't hold it as a black mark against the character. It'd be hard see it on her anyway, unless you put it on her cute little vest.
Does Past Sins deserve all the hate? Sure. Why not?
I'm not stepping up to defend it, despite how this may look if you've been willing to read this far through my long windededness. The story can stand the scrutiny on its own.
Well first and foremost, thanks to Seth for throwing this little thing up here on EqD. I'm always thankful for his and the rest of the crew's support on here. It's a pleasure for any "artist" to find a source of exposure, critique, and a tasteful bit of raving and/or ranting. I welcome it all.
So I'm the bloke who wrote the piece and in doing so, I was absolutely positive that this would happen. I'm neither surprised nor disappointed. Love and tolerance is all good and well, but we mustn't forget this is the internet after all. Bronies had their genesis here and are not exempt from the "laws" (or are they truisms now?): i.e. Haters gonna hate and all that jazz. Furthermore, I knew that by affiliating my piece with this most controversial of stories, I was in effect, damning it to an ancillary position in the shadow of all of the invective and vitriol which would be directed at the fan fiction. Ah well.
To those that liked the story, I hope the confluence of art, narrative and music did the trick for you. I'm no hotshot with video media, so this was WELL outside this composer's comfort zone. To those that hate this story, I hope you could at least avert your eyes for 3 minutes and weigh the music on its own merits. Regardless of which party you align yourself with, I extend equal thanks to all who viewed this little trifle.
To Pen Stroke, while I would never claim your story was *perfection* (frankly, what is?) I will say it affected me in some way or another; a way I found best communicated through music. That is the best thing one artist can do for another. So, many thanks.
To Mojo, it takes a really special kind of troll to carry it out with this sort of joyous, unapologetic frankness like you do, even maintaining a modicum of civility. If trollers gonna troll, I wish more of them would follow your example, lol.
Pen Stroke: Loved Past Sins. Still hoping you'll write a sequel. It was easy to see the filly formerly known as Nightmare Moon has a lot of challenges ahead as she grows up, and a potential for a lot of great stories.
YEAAHHH LETS PURGE ALL DISAGREEMENT, EQD MUST BE ONE IN OPINION WOO!!!
You are the kind of person who whould never be listened too, maybe I am too but at least im not going around saying we should dictate what can and cannnot be said.
Not saying that everyone should be one big hivemind on opinions. What I am trying to say is that people should drop the "ZOMG STOP LIKING STUFF I DONT LIKE" attitude. Quick search on EqD shows you seem to be set on anti-Nyx crusade of some sort. Like the one video on youtube says "its ok to not like things" but why take it to the extreme?
And no, I am not saying Past Sins is a excellent, masterpiece, ect. ect. fic, it was decent at best.
The video was pretty good. I still don't understand how there are still so many people who are hating on Past Sins in a community about love and tolerance. Sure, the story wasn't perfect and neither was the way it was handled, but that doesn't excuse the fact that the final product is a great story with well deserved praise. I think some people need to get off their high "horse"!
@Yourenigma: I thought it was quite beautiful, and a lovely tribute to Past Sins.
I personally really enjoyed reading Past Sins. I will admit that I haven't read the last chapters... I allowed myself to get so caught up in writing my own fanfiction that I let all ready slip away. But reading the rest of your lovely story is very high on my list of desires.
@Batty Gloom and Pen Stroke: I read your wise and well-stated words dealing with the troll, and I want to commend you. I also hope that you are not dissuaded from your love of this fandom because of a few juvenile folks like that. There are so many more of us for whom "love and tolerance" actually mean something.
I recently discovered Yourenigma's pony piano trio in my quest for good MLP:FIM fanmusic and was so impressed that I went to his channel to see if he had any other uploads. I found this video in his channel in the context of my own burgeoning interest in classical music (I listened to classical music religiously when I was very young but gradually lost interest by my teens; my interest has recently been re-kindled), rather than in the context of Past Sins. So instead of focusing on how much attention I think Past Sins deserves, I focused on the quality of the music.
And it is wonderful music. Similarly to the second and, to a limited extent, third motions of the pony piano trio, this composition evokes an emotional warmth that is rare in soundtracks and symphonic poems, and rare even in classical music itself. I enjoyed reading Past Sins and recognize it as a pretty good (if overrated and problematic) fanfic, but this score instills the same type of emotion that the entire first third of Past Sins seeks to evoke, such that it accomplishes in under 4 minutes what Past Sins struggles to reach with several chapters at its disposal. It's like the "married life" montage of Up in that regard: using incredibly dense imagery to make me feel things that many authors can't make me feel.
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I don't know what to think of this.....
ReplyDeletecool
ReplyDeleteFaust.
ReplyDelete@Bombedrumbum
ReplyDeleteJust think "Yes"
^I swear, you are horrible at subtlety.....
ReplyDelete@LittleBrendon not intended for you, but for a certain someone above you
ReplyDeleteWait.....classical music and pictures with story words. This......is good. Too bad Past Sins is the only fic these sort of things are done for.....
ReplyDeleteAnd then Mojo murdered Nyx for she is a terrible character from the most overrated fic in the fandom who most certainly does not deserve post on EQD featuring her MONTHS after her story ended and things were great! THE END.
ReplyDelete@Mojo Well, Past Sins is a good fic. Overrated, maybe. Fallout Equestria is where it's at. New tag: LEGENDARY
ReplyDeleteThat was awesome :D
ReplyDelete@Bombedrumbum
ReplyDeleteFallout Equestria is ok.
but everytime there is an episode now people go like "OMG THIS MAKES FALLOUT EQUESTRIA CANON/NONCANON ARHEAJFEAGSJL" and I just face palm, it's fans are getting as bad as Past Sins fans.
FO:E IS A FAN FICTION, LIKE ALL FAN FICTION IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CANON, ENJOY IT FOR WHAT IT IS.
It was good, my sound is a bit iffy but that's on my end.
ReplyDeleteI'd quite like to see things like this pop up for other fics and such though.
I liked past sins though all the hype around it can annoy me sometimes, the same can be said for everything though, the arguments they produce when someone inevitably disagrees gets on my nerves.
yay! I listened it some days ago, now I can go to sleep
ReplyDelete@Mojo
ReplyDelete"You are a sad, strange little pony, and you have my pity. Farewell."
This video was very well done, and an interesting concept at that. Keep up the good work.
Wow. I... wow.
ReplyDeleteWhen I assisted Pen Stroke in writing Past Sins, both it's very bad original version and the much more polished revised versions (with the help of many pre-readers and editors who also deserve a lot of recognition for their help and honest opinions), I had no idea it would get this much attention, both positive and negative. I'm a pessimist at heart, so I tend to worry excessively about the critics and my people-pleaser nature makes me want to write and rewrite the story until everyone or at least 9 out of 10 people would like the story.
All that said, it still stuns me when people take the time and effort to draw fan art or make fan music and I'm honored they have taken the time to do so. Pen Stroke as, unfortunately, already gone to bed as I'm typing this but I'm going to send him an email with this link so he sees it. If I know him as well as I do, he'll be just as stunned and honored that another talented musician has done something like this.
I've been rambling for far too long, so let me just finish off by saying: Thank you, thank you so much. And while we may not be getting back to that revision or side stories we promised as soon as some people would like, we do appreciate your patience and readership and hope we can entertain others with our works, be they side stories to Past Sins or other projects.
The above is why I've never been able to get into fanfic from any fandom.
ReplyDeleteI think we can all agree that overhyping characters, Nyx or Littlepip or otherwise, is bad all around.
ReplyDeleteI never read very much of Past Sins, but I'll give this video storybook a chance. If it's good enough, I'll consider Past Sins.
...in the five seconds it took for me to type that four more comments appeared. Bah. I know what I meant.
ReplyDelete@Mojo
ReplyDeleteI love how the Nyx haters just cant resist trying to cause a shit storm. If you dont like the character, then easy, dont comment in the article.
The fact that you're actually putting effort into coming here and posting your bile shows that you care more than you let on.
Now, on topic. I'm eh about Nyx. Don't really care either way, but the music was nice.
I've not read the story truthfully. So I was perhaps a little lost on the story itself in the video. But I really liked the beautiful music. The music was my favorite part. But I think overall it was nice.
ReplyDelete@joetraincool
ReplyDeletehttp://www.blogomatic3000.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/1268327863.jpg
@Kyle_Katarn
ReplyDeletedo I care not really, really Past Sins to me is just a not very good story that is very overrated and has an annoying fanbase.
however for some reason hating it is really goddamn fun so I actually love post related to it, cause it means I get to hate it some more.
@Mojo
ReplyDeleteHmm, a forbidden link. Oh well, I have better things to do than be trolled.
Oh goodie. Just a troll, people. Move on, don't feed it.
ReplyDeletelove this how thing love the story and love all the video yay hope more past sins video come out soon
ReplyDelete@Kyle_Katarn
ReplyDeleteBut it will starve if we don't feed it :(
@joetraincool
ReplyDeleteo it didn't work terribly sorry.
here you go!
http://i.imgur.com/o94HH.jpg
@Kyle_Katarn
ReplyDeletehey at least im being honest that im doing this all for personal amusement.
and know that I only mess around in post related to Past Sins, im perfectly reasonable and not trollish elseware.
@Mojo
ReplyDeleteWell, what you're doing is a poor way to go about getting anyone's respect. Nice image, though.
That was a nice summation of the first chapter, although the different art styles put me off just a little. Not to say I didn't enjoy it (4 stars), but it would've been better with consistently styled pictures by a single artist.
ReplyDeleteAs others have said above, there are other fics out there, besides Fo:E, that deserve the kind of meta fan-works Past Sins has received. Did "It's a Dangerous Business Going out Your Door" ever receive this kind of attention? Or "Half the Day is Night"? "A New Breed"?
Spread the love a little Bronies, m'kay?
>Overrated Self-Insert Story
ReplyDelete>Gets its own post
>Yeah, there's going to be a shitstorm
-FrankFronk
@CTVulpin
ReplyDeleteIndeed. Dangerous Business was the first fanfic I ever read, and my favorite. If only it received the attention from artist's other stories did, there is a lot of potential.
@Mojo
A troll is a troll, despite the frequency of its appearance. It just waits under the bridge until some hapless passerby appears for dinner.
@FrankFronk
ReplyDeleteTHANK YOU. SOMEONE AGREES WITH ME!
@FrankFronk
ReplyDeleteSelf-insert? How? All Pen Stroke did was take a very general idea (what if the essence of Nightmare Moon from the fragments got reincarnated as a filly?) and ran with it. How is that self-insert?
@CTVulpin
Yes, please. Do make fan art/fan music for these and other great stories. I would love to see more work for Fallout Equestria or maybe something for that Hangover Crossover and don't forget a personal favorite when it comes to comedic crossovers - Best Night Ever.
As much as I do like seeing that some like Past Sins, I would be much happier if the ratio of fan-produced work was more balanced in the fandom.
Nyx- The only massively-accepted OC pony.
ReplyDeleteLittlepip doesn't even come close in popularity. Littlepip's story is a bit more epic, however
I'm mot saying that Past Sins is a bad fic; it's good, I just think that the adventure aspect of it coupd have been a bit better.
ReplyDelete@Bombedrumbum
ReplyDelete*laughs* Sorry, but Nyx isn't massively-accepted in my opinion. That would be Littlepip. Nopony hates Littlepip nor should they.
And of course Fallout Equestria is better. That's Pen Stroke and I's favorite story by a mile. It makes me both mad and sad that the biggest reason most people haven't read it yet is because it's "too long".
Dammit now it makes me wanna read past sins.... but... but... I just got Skyrim :'(
ReplyDelete@Bombedrumbum Debatable I've seen lots of Praise for Pip in comparison to Nyx whom gets a mixed bag usually.
ReplyDeleteAlso Nyx may be sueish to some but a self insert she isn't.
Indeed, Littlepip is much more widely accepted. Although, I wish Blackjack got more praise.
ReplyDeleteI knew this would happen, I do wish we could avoid these comment wars and be constructive, out of all these comments hardly any of them have anything to do with the video itself.
ReplyDeleteHow I wished my sound was working properly, I really can't give a proper opinion with the background noise i'm getting.
Hoorry Sheet, one of my pieces getting used in a PMV...not really sure what to say since I never expected that.... so, Woooooo! lol
ReplyDeleteit's @2:27
But, c'mon guys...it's just a story; a pretty heart warming story at that. Can either like or dislike it, but all the hate seems rather ridiculous. Besides, we already saw what the Windigos are capable of AND what fuels them...
@SgtGarand
ReplyDeleteForget the trolls. If Windigos were real, I think the earth would be a block of ice for a wide variety of reasons.
Still, troll-fueled Windigos... that idea scares me.
*Boom* *Boom*
ReplyDeleteAnd before the Windigos get here, just remember guys: We're ALL Bronies. Who the hay cares who likes what? It all boils down to opinions, and the only point in EVER arguing opinions is either trolling or arguing for the sake of arguing. Just drop it and quit hating on each other.
They're both damn good stories too, so wtf is with the hate anyway?
@SgtGarand
ReplyDeleteheheheheh ehehehe HAWHAWAHHAWHHAW MAWHAHWHA WHHAW HAWHWAJAHHAHWHAHAWHWAHA.
/end evil laugh.
Sounds exciting.... doesn't it....
Did I see somebody mention "Dangerous Business?"
ReplyDeleteThat was the first Pony fanfic I ever read. And I just tonight got my little brother to start reading it. He's of the age where he needs to consume lots of healthy literature, and he's loving it.
That story needs the kind of recognition that "Past Sins" gets. Which is why I'm drawing it some fanart in my free time.
Anyway, I liked this video storybook. It needed at least a couple more images, but since they were drawing on fanart there probably wasn't anything as specific as they needed.
I have a lot of free time coming up over the Holidays. Just in the name of fairness, I'll give Past Sins a chance and read it all the way through.
And at the troll... I'm sorry, but you're a terrible troll. Real trolls are subtle, masters of misdirection and manipulation. You make a fine fool, though. I'll give you that.
Time to love and tolerate the *bleep* out of this post.
ReplyDeleteI like Nyx,] and the story behind her regardless of how unconventional it would be to try to implement her into the actual kids' show.
The only overrated characters in this comment section are a green, large-brained monkey and a draconequus.
Haters gonna hate.
Ponies gonna pwn.
The world goes round and round.
For there is no up and down.
He he he he he.
@Foxbadger
ReplyDeletewell for one Im hating because it's amusing me to hate, and judging by all the comments about "how accepted Nyx is" and whatnot I would say iv been fairly successful.
second of all I disagree that Past Sins is a good story.
Fallout Equestria however, despite not having finished it yet is.
though I still have a hard time with it sort of due to a general distaste of grimdark ponies.
@Mojo
ReplyDeleteFO:E is too canon! Why else would Zecora call out Lilpip by name? You don't know what you're talking about!
that was a joke....
@Mojo
ReplyDeleteI remember reading somewhere why it was you hated Past Sins, but I forgot. Mind retelling?
@Wisdom Thumbs
ReplyDeletedoes it look like im TRYING to be a good troll?
I more or less outright said "I AM TROLLING" in like my second post, I am fully capable of being a subtle troll if I wanted to be but here im just having some cheap fun.
@Tundra
ReplyDeleteIn retrospect,
Applejack: "I think we're getting a little off topic here."
@Gozer the Equestrian
ReplyDeletehehe.
really I have a hard time understanding why anyone would WANT it to be canon regardless of how much they like it. I mean what the hell? why do you WANT Equestria to turn out like that?
I dislike Nyx as a character, I thought that lots of the characters acted OOC at times and had a firm grasp on the idiot ball throughout most of the story among some other reasons, also it's Fans can be annoying.
but really looking back on it I should have never read the story, I was bound to dislike it due to ultimately I do not like the concept of "Nightmare Moon reborn" or whatever you want to call it nor do I like the idea of Nightmare moon being seperate from Luna as I feel it cheapens both of them.
@Mojo
ReplyDeleteAre you sure? Because I could give you some really great pointers if you'd like.
First you have to upset the person that you're trolling, without appearing that you're actually trolling them...
*dons trollface*
@Tundra
ReplyDeletePinkie Pie: "You gotta share.
You gotta care.
It's the right thing to do
And there will always be a way through.
@Tundra
ReplyDeletePinkie Pie: "You gotta share.
You gotta care.
It's the right thing to do
And there will always be a way through.
@Mojo
ReplyDeletegoddamn it I meant that last part as a reply to @Foxbadger
Actually, no, I don't have time to chat about fanfiction right now. It's 2 a.m. and I have work in the morning. Perhaps next weekend. Until then, good evening Gentlemen.
ReplyDelete@Tundra
ReplyDeleteWhat the hay?
Pinkie Pie, how did you get on my account?
@Tundra
ReplyDeleteWhoa now! Discord is in no way overrated!
@Wisdom Thumbs
Bless you good sir. Like I said, I WANT to see other fan fiction get more recommendation.
Also, if you do read Past Sins, all I ask that you keep in mind that it was written before season 2 aired and was, at the time, only based on the knowledge we had at season 1 plus some minor speculation. Pen Stroke and I will be making minor revisions to incorporate the season 2 canon once season 2 is finished, since we're the kind of guys who are insane enough to do something like that to a fan fic.
@Wisdom Thumbs
ReplyDeletehahhahahahahahahahahahaha.
I enjoyed the video. The music seemed to go well with the story and art.
ReplyDeleteI happen to have really liked Past Sins.
I've not read Fallout Equestria, not because of it's length, but because my understanding is that it's a crossover with a video game I've never played, will never play, and thought looked boring as heck when I've seen others play it. No interest in postapocalyptic ponies.
@Tundra
ReplyDeleteWhat? Discord is a far superior character and villain compared to Nightmare Moon.
he would even be better than Mojo Jojo if he spoke as awesomely.
@Mojo
ReplyDeleteThat's the spirit!
@Batty Gloom
I'll make sure to keep that in mind. And good luck with those revisions.
@Karl
ReplyDeleteFallout is a great game series dude.
I've never read Past Sins, though i might someday. what i saw of the video was nice.
ReplyDeleteStill, why the fuck would anyone want fanfiction to be fucking canon? are they fucking retarded?
I liked it. It caried alot of the emotion that came from the story. :)
ReplyDelete@wackypony you sir, would be very suprised
ReplyDelete@wackypony
ReplyDeletewell I don't want to be insulting. But yeah pretty much.
@Batty Gloom
ReplyDeleteUh, yes he is.
Most of his fans only like him because he has the same voice as Q. Less then half of those actually know who Q is.
And those fans want him to return?
What is wrong with you people?
Psychological brainwashing should not be repeatedly placed into a kids' show for any reason.
You may see his methods as more humane than murder but buddy, there are fates worse than death. Living lies and torment is one such fate.
For those of you who read this and go TL;DR let me give you the fast version.
Discord = Douche.
@Foxbadger
ReplyDeleteLol, go to post I can't chat, reponse to earlier question gets answered. Heh.
And @Mojo. Fair enough reason to not like it. Although in retrospect, trying to get cheap laughs here on EQD is probably not the best place to do so. You're more likely to get a better response from one of the many threads on /b/, or perhaps one of the random forums out there. I'm sure there's a Nyx forum somewhere that would truly detest you.
As it is, I much prefer the situations to whatever the characters act like anyway. Good example being those "RD dies or is horribly maimed or blah blah blah" stories. There are about 13 billion of the damned things, and I'll read every single one of them, JUST because I want to see how well the author can pull off the disaster and how the characters react to it. It's always better when they act IC, but it can be fun even if they're not.
Point is, enjoy it for being a story, not as a continuation, unless it's strictly meant to be so. Foxbadger out.
@Tundra
ReplyDeleteDiscord IS a Douche he's a sadistic evil mind raping douche.
and that's why he's a fantastic character and villain I wouldn't want him any other way.
@Bombedrumbum'
ReplyDeleteat how stupid some bronies are? probably not.
don't get me wrong. I love shipping, but I'm not delusional enough to think it could ever hope to be canon.
*looks at all the negativity and sheds a tear*
ReplyDeleteThis is not the brony way. I have no objection if this post got sent to the moon. We should be better than this.
This wasn't what I signed up for when I joined this fandom.
@Batty Gloom
ReplyDeleteit's what ya signed up for when you joined THE INTERNET BABY! YEAH!
really though the whole "love and tolerance" thing was just meant to be a joke and an anti trolling thing back on 4chan it pretty much meant "ignore the trolls, or treat them decently"
Past sins was an above- average story, 5 star in my opinion... Though I've become a bit numb regarding trolls and kind of just chuckle when I see them go about their shenanigans
ReplyDeleteAnd about FO:E... I dare say I am more a fan of that fic than MLP:FiM itself... It's the most hardcore-fan I've gotten about a work of literature since the Silmarillion... I don't mean to say it's on the same leage in literature... I'm talking about the scale of my love for the books only.
that is all
@RyuuKiba Phew, I'm not the only one who has read and enjoyed the Silmarillion. I personally like The Children of Húrin better, but that's just me.
ReplyDelete@RyuuKiba
ReplyDeleteugh I dislike fans of your type who get more into fan stuff than the thing said fanstuff is based around.
however the Silmarillion is an amazing book so you are forgiven.
@Bombedrumbum
ReplyDeleteYou kiddin'? I couldn't drop the Silmarillion till my head hurt every night XD I ansolutely loved it. Especially the story of Beren and Luthien (I tend to fansqweak everytime I see the extended Fellowship of the Ring film in the part where Aragorn sings about Uthien and Beren)
Man, I so need to read "The Children of Hurin"... haven't gone book-shopping in years!
I liked Past Sins it was a decent story, and Nyx as a character was kind of cute. The video is really nice, if a bit on the slow side of things.
ReplyDelete@Mojo
ReplyDeleteSorry, haha. Not much I can do about it, though. I like what I like XD
I rented the Silmarillion once, but never got around to reading it.
ReplyDeletethough, tbh, i never even finished TTT(got to the second half and got bored out of my mind) or started RotK.
@Mojo
ReplyDelete@Ryuukiba
Tolkein was a genius, after all.......
@wackypony SAME HERE
ReplyDelete@Bombedrumbum
ReplyDeleteyes he was.
@Wackypony
power on through man, I'll admit at times Tolkein can get over-descriptive and whatnot but that is because in all of his Middle-Earth works he was doing more then writing stories, he was building a world.
*squints*
ReplyDeleteI think I see Discord on the horizon......
@Mojo hipster minecrafter refernce here.
ReplyDeleteI'm reading Past Sins right now and I must say that I am astonished. There are moments when its author went the easy path but most of the work is simply brilliant. The fic almost equals Blood is Thicker than Friendship.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if MLP team could be convinced somehow to make it into a stand-alone movie. All young mothers would go to see it in theaters like 10 times every week o) Also Nyx is a great marketing potential (tet's not fool ourselves - MLP FiM's sole purpose is to sell toys and that's why previous generations are so bad).
@Tundra
ReplyDeleteyou are correct sir, I am a douche, but not just any douche I am The douche
Hey, I was right!!
ReplyDelete@Bombedrumbum
ReplyDelete>Minecraft.
>Hipster.
what.
@Mojo Exactly.
ReplyDelete@Maquabra
ReplyDeleteURGE TO KILL RISING.
I keep hearing the name Nyx everywhere. I'll have to give that one a look.
ReplyDeleteSo the name of the fic she's in is "Past Sins", eh? Knowing the name of the fic will sure as heck make finding it easier!
'Till then, this video should make a nice intro.
You guy's are weird. That's all I gotta say.
ReplyDelete@Mojo no, not yet........
ReplyDelete@Blightmare There's a method to our madness
that version of how Twilight took her in without so much second guessing is why I fell for that story. Great work on that video the music brought back good memories of the fic <3
ReplyDeleteHaters can hate, but it was a great story overall. Just needed a bit of reworking to be less repetitive. You can almost skip a whole paragraph in some chapters and not miss anything important, at least when the pity party started up.
To those that have never read the story, go on and check it out it's still good. Could have been better but that is MY opinion.
Also, a thank you to Pen Stroke for sticking with the story through to it's end and I guess Batty but idk what part she was involved in :P
Also what is with all the new "Pen " authors popping up all a sudden :P seen like 2-3 so far in the past month alone I believe. People need more creative 'Pen' names xD
@Blightmare
ReplyDeletehell yeah.
it's fun man.
@Mojo You got that right!
ReplyDelete@Cátsy ooh, ooh, I got it!!
ReplyDeleteQuill Stroke
On the subject of the video:
ReplyDeleteI love every song Yourenigma has posted to youtube, and this is no exception. I just hope a download link gets posted soon.
I felt that the text was a bit too sparse to get some of the important story bits across (Twi's reluctance to take Nyx home in the first place comes to mind), but I guess that wouldn't have fit in the pacing of the song or the vid and had to be left out. I'm a little curious as to why a pic of Nyx post-cutiemark was used, though. That said, I still loved a lot of the art selected to convey the story, and it all seemed to fit fairly well. A lot of my old favorites made it in, so I'm happy about that.
Something I don't get: why do people still respond to Mojo? He has stated on multiple occasions that he just shows up in these places to troll fans of Past Sins and that he hates the hype it has received and hates the story for perceived OOCness. Nopony is going to convince him otherwise. Can't we let the sad, strange little man fester in peace?
@ChaosDX1Here's a link to the Past Sins tropes page, which in turn has a link to the EqD post. And, before you ask, Twilight does not get hanged.
@Batty Gloom Disregard the hate. The story you helped Pen Stroke craft has inspired somebody else to write a beautiful piece of music and put together a video to help retell the story. That is an accomplishment that I aspire to.
@Octavia
ReplyDeleteThat part in the video takes place after Twilight had recently been rescued by the Princess and the Guards, yes spoilers sorry, the original version was slightly dark but not grim. It was some great moments in it.
They aren't there now but a newer less dark characterization of an over paranoid and protective Celestia was changed to a more kinder understanding mind twisting Celestia. And to be "De-Spelled" I think that wording was removed as well.
If you like stories with safety nets but do it in a way that makes you THINK something bad can happen then this fic is for you. I will give Pen serious cred for having the patience to try and please people so they stop hating on his great story. To rework 13 chapters is no small feat =P
Story went pretty much unchanged though so both versions are still good. My only problem is that I just have this nagging feeling now like I'll never know how the original story would have flowed like had no one been so umm bothersome and critical of Pen Stroke's story. I honestly wish there was two complete versions like the RATED G and PG 13? :P
I talk too much but yeah trust me it's still a great read. This for being one of those RARE non-ship stories that actually get your attention and keeps you wanting more!
Durr~ well I think I revealed my main reason for my dislike enough on EqD. Now people start commenting on the music video PLEASE!
Also /d'aww at the last 2 pics. It brought back all the mushy feelings that made me fall for for the story.
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ReplyDeleteI do believe we've found a new method of expression to spread the fandom into.
ReplyDelete@Bugsydor
ReplyDeleteIn the original she was hesitant but not so overly paranoid. She had her suspicions but the real Twilight would never have left a filly in the woods, in the rain, in a thorny bush and in the EVERFREE FOREST of all things. I believe that hesitance can just be added to her inner thoughts, which idk if it was some how changed (doubt that) all her doubts and hesitations were never spoken words but thoughts we peeked into, thus no reason to spoil the video with more text.
People tend to think faster then they reason. And thus Twilight's doubts were over shadowed with her protective instincts to rush to the Filly's aid when she saw her wounded and afraid. Even if she knew what she finds out later I doubt she'd a left NMM there anyways.
@Bugsydor
ReplyDeleteI believe I stated some of my reasons for hating it earlier.
not that it matters, I can do what I want to do.
and im not festering im having quite a bit of fun.
"Disregard the hate," they say.
ReplyDelete"It's overrated, but it's a good fic," they say.
"It doesn't systematically flanderize and destroy Rarity's character, and the entire fic-canon doesn't bend over backwards to accommodate Nyx," they say.
"Nyx is a defensible character that isn't a soulless Mary Sue," they say.
Meaning no offense to the efforts of the writers, while Past Sins may have its strengths, I cannot forgive how mercilessly it destroys canon. For me, the entire appeal of fanfics is character interpretation and world-building, and Past Sins is unforgivable in those areas.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH PAST SINS?!?
ReplyDeleteI loved it! I'm just so confused on why people hated it so much? It was brilliant, and I've never been more engrossed into a fanfic like this before.
And besides, it's only a fanfic. It's not canon.
I love it how the majority of comments are completely unrelated to the video. Really, bronies? Arguing over a fanfic? Biting the trollbait? Ridiculously disappointing.
ReplyDeleteI thought Past Sins was a mixed bag, but the song in the video? - a download link would be very much appreciated, so very much.
The video is pretty decent. It's nice to see Nyx getting some love.
ReplyDeleteBest part about this comment thread: All the fics that others have pointed out, which I haven't read yet. A bunch of them are going on my Kindle now.
Look at the vocal minority being its loud usual self.
ReplyDeleteNot surprised to see Mojo being the loudest voice of said minority, again.
So much hate over a work of fiction. lolwat. That is even more mundane reason than for example, fighting over what console is the best.
EqD really needs to hurry up with swapping the comment system so that these few unwanted inviduals can be dealt with.
@Batty Gloom
ReplyDeleteTell Pen to quit using attention hoarding images as well as writing soap opera stories if he wants less hate.
There's a reason why the tiny fandom for Past Sins is so hated and people call them unintelligent pricks, it was right when the kids joined through the summer. If the fanfic would of been invented somewhere in February or April then it wouldn't have got so much attention or hate.
If you closely look, you'll see that most people from the summer are the posers which put everything under the label of Troll and practically tell the people to love everything than try to rate it.
I really need to read this...
ReplyDeleteWow, the things that go on when I've gone to sleep. I think its high time I weighed in on this for myself.
ReplyDeleteFirstly, I just want to thank the person who made this, to thank all the people who make the fan-art and fan-music for Past Sins. It always blows me away, and I can't say how much it touches me.
Now, if I can say one thing about the discussion going on in these comments, it would be this. I wrote the story because it was a story I wanted to write. I'm glad some people enjoy it, and I respect that some people don't. Beyond that, I would just ask people to remember its a fan-fiction and not to take it so seriously. Enjoy Past Sins and the whole community for what it is, a celebration of an amazing show.
what
ReplyDeleteThis comment thread went careening off the tracks a loooong ways up.
ReplyDeleteas for the video that this post was made for: it's nice and despite the inconsistent art styles, If there were more of these to tell the story, I'd watch them, and recommend them. Just my taste, but longer vids taking more liberties with pacing would appease me greatly. With a dedicated artist and some free reign (neigh-sayers gonna neigh say) it would be all the better. As for this one alone: The music is fitting, and the video serves to bring me back to the story as I remember reading it. Thanks.
I read Past Sins.
I liked it.
I don't know of, or even care at heart to subscribe to the opinions of those people who are adamant one way or the other for it. I keep in mind to appreciate the work and struggle Pen and Batty put into making it, and then revising it as they did.
As someone who's got 100+ pages of rough fanfic that's maybe not even halfway done before I can even begin to edit, I think I can genuinely say I know that it's not easy to keep at it. I would be utterly satisfied to even make pretense of the par you made when I finally get to the end of this long trudging. Seeing completed works like yours helps with perspective. Its a humble inspiration.
It's all right to not like it. It's all right to like it.
For me, it was a nice story. Criticism is for building stories, but perhaps not enjoying them. This one definetly gets picked through by a coarser brony comb than most. I loved the concept at the root of the story. "Can Nightmare Moon be redeemed?" After that, the lesser details can be accepted, torn through and/or dismissed as you please.
Yes, I agree that Nyx has shades of Sue. So what? I don't hold it as a black mark against the character. It'd be hard see it on her anyway, unless you put it on her cute little vest.
Does Past Sins deserve all the hate?
Sure. Why not?
I'm not stepping up to defend it, despite how this may look if you've been willing to read this far through my long windededness. The story can stand the scrutiny on its own.
@Pen Stroke
ReplyDeleteFinely said. yay you.
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ReplyDeleteIn the words of Marlin the clownfish..."wow."
ReplyDeleteWell first and foremost, thanks to Seth for throwing this little thing up here on EqD. I'm always thankful for his and the rest of the crew's support on here. It's a pleasure for any "artist" to find a source of exposure, critique, and a tasteful bit of raving and/or ranting. I welcome it all.
So I'm the bloke who wrote the piece and in doing so, I was absolutely positive that this would happen. I'm neither surprised nor disappointed. Love and tolerance is all good and well, but we mustn't forget this is the internet after all. Bronies had their genesis here and are not exempt from the "laws" (or are they truisms now?): i.e. Haters gonna hate and all that jazz. Furthermore, I knew that by affiliating my piece with this most controversial of stories, I was in effect, damning it to an ancillary position in the shadow of all of the invective and vitriol which would be directed at the fan fiction. Ah well.
To those that liked the story, I hope the confluence of art, narrative and music did the trick for you. I'm no hotshot with video media, so this was WELL outside this composer's comfort zone. To those that hate this story, I hope you could at least avert your eyes for 3 minutes and weigh the music on its own merits. Regardless of which party you align yourself with, I extend equal thanks to all who viewed this little trifle.
To Pen Stroke, while I would never claim your story was *perfection* (frankly, what is?) I will say it affected me in some way or another; a way I found best communicated through music. That is the best thing one artist can do for another. So, many thanks.
To Mojo, it takes a really special kind of troll to carry it out with this sort of joyous, unapologetic frankness like you do, even maintaining a modicum of civility. If trollers gonna troll, I wish more of them would follow your example, lol.
Pen Stroke:
ReplyDeleteLoved Past Sins. Still hoping you'll write a sequel. It was easy to see the filly formerly known as Nightmare Moon has a lot of challenges ahead as she grows up, and a potential for a lot of great stories.
@PelleSankari
ReplyDeleteYEAAHHH LETS PURGE ALL DISAGREEMENT, EQD MUST BE ONE IN OPINION WOO!!!
You are the kind of person who whould never be listened too, maybe I am too but at least im not going around saying we should dictate what can and cannnot be said.
@TheRaggedyDoctor
ReplyDeleteThanks for the complement!
HEARTS ALL AROUND!!
<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
@Mojo
ReplyDeleteEhh wut?
Quick to jump to extremes are we?
Not saying that everyone should be one big hivemind on opinions.
What I am trying to say is that people should drop the "ZOMG STOP LIKING STUFF I DONT LIKE" attitude. Quick search on EqD shows you seem to be set on anti-Nyx crusade of some sort.
Like the one video on youtube says "its ok to not like things" but why take it to the extreme?
And no, I am not saying Past Sins is a excellent, masterpiece, ect. ect. fic, it was decent at best.
@PelleSankari
ReplyDeletewell because it's kinda fun.
really if you've read my comments you'd know it's all in good fun, it's always been all in good fun.
The video was pretty good. I still don't understand how there are still so many people who are hating on Past Sins in a community about love and tolerance. Sure, the story wasn't perfect and neither was the way it was handled, but that doesn't excuse the fact that the final product is a great story with well deserved praise. I think some people need to get off their high "horse"!
ReplyDelete@Yourenigma: I thought it was quite beautiful, and a lovely tribute to Past Sins.
ReplyDeleteI personally really enjoyed reading Past Sins. I will admit that I haven't read the last chapters... I allowed myself to get so caught up in writing my own fanfiction that I let all ready slip away. But reading the rest of your lovely story is very high on my list of desires.
@Batty Gloom and Pen Stroke:
I read your wise and well-stated words dealing with the troll, and I want to commend you. I also hope that you are not dissuaded from your love of this fandom because of a few juvenile folks like that. There are so many more of us for whom "love and tolerance" actually mean something.
And again, thank you for your wonderful story.
Why hello, old thread.
ReplyDeleteI recently discovered Yourenigma's pony piano trio in my quest for good MLP:FIM fanmusic and was so impressed that I went to his channel to see if he had any other uploads. I found this video in his channel in the context of my own burgeoning interest in classical music (I listened to classical music religiously when I was very young but gradually lost interest by my teens; my interest has recently been re-kindled), rather than in the context of Past Sins. So instead of focusing on how much attention I think Past Sins deserves, I focused on the quality of the music.
And it is wonderful music. Similarly to the second and, to a limited extent, third motions of the pony piano trio, this composition evokes an emotional warmth that is rare in soundtracks and symphonic poems, and rare even in classical music itself. I enjoyed reading Past Sins and recognize it as a pretty good (if overrated and problematic) fanfic, but this score instills the same type of emotion that the entire first third of Past Sins seeks to evoke, such that it accomplishes in under 4 minutes what Past Sins struggles to reach with several chapters at its disposal. It's like the "married life" montage of Up in that regard: using incredibly dense imagery to make me feel things that many authors can't make me feel.