Trolls have taken down Alex S' Youtube account after several takedown notices by obviously fake names.
Here's to hoping he can get that resolved- in the meantime, his new channel is here.
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VastaKustutaCurse YouTube!
VastaKustutaBooooo!
VastaKustutaUgh Youtube's garbage these days.
VastaKustutainb4 all the ponies saying "Tne fandom is dying!"
VastaKustutaThis makes me sad in pants.
VastaKustutaMy reaction=:(
VastaKustutastupid people are stupid
VastaKustutaAdolf Bush? Ho'kay.
VastaKustutaBut damn, this bucks :/
Adolf Bush? ... Obvious troll is obvious...
VastaKustutaThanks Youtube. First you get worse and worse, and now you take off my favorite pony music maker.
VastaKustutaAlso, what the hell are you listening to on Youtube in that other tab? o_O
VastaKustutahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly6cWq904rI
VastaKustutawat.
is it bad i laughed? <_< I like his work, but this is absurd.
VastaKustutacome on really
VastaKustutaOh, that's terrible.
VastaKustuta"Adolf Bush"
*snicker* so... PMFF! ...awful... *snicker* Oh come on! How can anyone fall for THAT!
Is this a clever sopa protest?
VastaKustutaEVERYPONY START SENDING MESSAGES TO YOUTUBE. LETS SEE IF 13,000 MESSAGES WILL GET THEIR ATTENTION AND MAKE THEM REALIZE THEIR MISTAKE. REMEMBER: PINKIE PIE WANTS YOU TO DO THIS!
VastaKustutaReally? Using 'communist' as an insult? Not cool. You've obviously never met the communist bronies. They're a cool group.
VastaKustutaI sense dark times headed for us Bronies. Is it wrong for me to feel so worried and depressed?
VastaKustutaThis is absurd! Youtube, why must you be dumber than a box of rocks?
VastaKustutaDiscord is now a YouTube mod. Deal with it.
VastaKustutaCharlie Brown last Halloween: I got a rock
VastaKustutaCharlie Brown this Halloween: I got a box of Youtube brains
Those names...
VastaKustutaYou have got to be kidding me. A little funny but still frustrating.
THE FANDOM IS DYING
VastaKustutaYeah, I saw others mentioning that earlier as well. That really really sucks. :/ I hope he might be able to get his old channel back. If not, I hope his new channel doesn't get hit by that as well.
VastaKustutaAlso, yes, the third name is slightly funny. I can't believe they didn't think that real odd.
What the motherfucking fuck, who could actually hate on Alex? THE DUDE'S UNHATE-ABLE >:U
VastaKustutaTrolls are stupid. No offense Celestia. We <3 you!
VastaKustutaThis is a bunch of Horseapples >:(
VastaKustuta@Infinion
VastaKustutaLIES!!!
@Derp
VastaKustutaI sense dark times as well. With Pony Archive shut down, and now this stuff?
I think the true test of this community is how it survives with stuff like this.
If ponies come off of Youtube, then Bronies will have to start factoring in their buying power
No, Adolf Bush, how could you??!!!!!
VastaKustutaOh God help me I forgot who DJ Alex S is!! D:
I'm sorry, I just could not stop the goddamn laughing coming from my mouth. This tragic I know, but those are horrible names.
VastaKustutaWell what do you expect? Alex S is STEALING Hasbro's intellectual property. And as we all know, that's a CRIME...just like robbing the elderly. Or MURDER. (lol Boondocks s2 reference) We all need to be more understanding of poor, poor Hasbro's position.
VastaKustutaIf you want to post Pony vids on Youtube, do it the right way - get express written consent and pay the necessary licensing fees.
*SNICKER*
@Lol Cupcakes
VastaKustutaSeth, what are you even doing.
You are silly.
@Infinion
VastaKustutabanned from youtube? back in 10 seconds flat!
does youtube even look at the profile first? or do they just go around taking down channels to be asshole's!?
VastaKustutahope you get your acount back alex, this is some serious bull.
Everybody please keep your heads and remember two things:
VastaKustuta1) if you insist on flooding Youtube with messages, keep them civil. That will go a long way in convincing them to put the channel back up. We are a fandom of love and tolerance.
2) this kind of thing has happened before to other channels. Dark times ahead or not, we've pulled through this shit before. Youtube's been doing this for months now, thanks to the trolls.
I was never following Alex S. before this, but I'll gladly Subscribe to his channel to help make up for all his lost subscribers.
And... Adolf Bush? Really? It would only be more obvious if his name were Dorcus Hitler. *rolls eyes*
I feel sorry for any real Adolf Bushes out there, if there are any. That's a pretty terrible name to be saddled with.
Wait, people still take jewtube seriously?
VastaKustutaI laughed at the third name, but all the trolls trying to get ponies off of youtube worries me.
VastaKustuta@Infinion CALM THE F DOWN EVERYPONY. We bronies can survive this.
VastaKustuta@Huundee
VastaKustutaNo they don't check copyright claims.
1) It would cost money, so fuck that.
2) It's easier just to piss people off by taking everything down without checking than it is to to get sued for copyright infrigement.
wtf does communists have to do with this?
VastaKustutaSomeone in the Ponyarchive thread said that YouTube would only take down videos and channels if the takedown requests came from the domain of the copyright holders (in this case, presumably, Hasbro.com).
VastaKustutaErgo, Hasbro has an employee named Adolph Bush.
Shame on you bronies for making fun of his name!
What? The troll used my name! Mein Gott, I'll make them all pay, or my name isn't Adolf Osama Bush!
VastaKustuta@jodyjm13
VastaKustutaActually, Youtube reacts based on the volume of reports they get. It only has to look vaguely legitimate and they have no choice but to act on it.
Though maybe if they would hire some actual STAFF they might be able to check these kinds of things...
if that SOPA bill passes, this might happen more often :(!
VastaKustutaI bet even Trollestia is mad at this.
VastaKustuta@dc321946-2138-11e1-87c0-000bcdcb471e
VastaKustuta''
If ponies come off of Youtube, then Bronies will have to start factoring in their buying power''
just go to pirate bay and other torrent site its easy
Why do I get this strange feeling that this is related to pony archive going down.... Not that Hasbro is behind this as well, but rather that someone from PA might be lashing out by copyright trolling pony channels since we turned our backs on them after their response letter....
VastaKustutaid bet money its Warven and his stupid NCF we should make a group dedicated to wiping him off the face of youtube
VastaKustutabarring the trollishness of the situation....
VastaKustutaadolf bush >_>
classic.
Cereal, that communist comment you made just made my night
VastaKustutaWell thats bull that they would take down his channel.
@Wisdom Thumbs yeah, you'd think they would have a group of people specifically for check if profile reports are legit, but like you said that would cost money so fuck that (>_>)
VastaKustutaDark times.....three weeks with no new episode, Pony Archive has been taken down, the parasprites are flooding YouTube and FIMFiction.....brace yourselves; the truest tests of our devotion are about to be revealed.
VastaKustuta@Lol Cupcakes
VastaKustutaThat is the closest I have ever come to "laughing so hard that I cried"
Mobilize the tanks? I mean, we already know Equestria has tanks and there is great suspicion that they have the bomb...
VastaKustuta@MKC7162387 Not to mention that today SOPA will be going into full Comitee...
VastaKustutaBut anyway, obvious trolls are obvious, I mean Adolph Bush? Seriously...
@Wisdom Thumbs
VastaKustutaYeah, I guess my sarcasm didn't quite show through. I'm sure you're right, but sadly YouTube has no incentive to change, as long as they're still the go-to video uploading site. I suspect Google could easily hire people to check on copyright violation claims if they wanted to, or even develop software to filter out the most obvious trolling attempts, but from their perspective the current system works: media companies are happy it's easy to get videos taken down, and the people who're taken down keep coming back to YouTube because that's the place to be.
ATTENTION ALL PONYS THE CULPRIT ARE THE NCF THEY MUST BE ELIMINATED THIS IS YOUR MISSION SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO ACCEPT IT.I dont care how its done but i want those trolls whiped off the internet for good by ANY MEANS NECESSARY!
VastaKustutaStay Strong Bronies, Parasprites will come and go, but we stand strong in friendship and harmony!
VastaKustutato all the oh noes the fandom is dying sayers
VastaKustutaalthough this youtube thing bucks hay it doesnt count for anything as 1. youtube is staffed by braindead monkeys 2. youtube is a troll hotbed
as for Pony Archive being shut down I think that as a sign we are growing as a fanbase it means Hasbro may actually start seeing us as a market and therefor very well might listen to our toy demands soon! >:D
they still deserve to be flagged themselves it would make the internet a better place
VastaKustutaNot sure who this person is but it's a darn shame anyway.
VastaKustutaWell, at least Alex S. knows we all love him, so he's not gonna give up on making awesome stuff. *sigh* I wonder what it is that makes people hate bronies so much... maybe some people have no happiness of their own and seek to ruin that which others have. In that case, I'm not angry, I just pity them.
VastaKustuta*facepalm* Im all for loving and tolerating....
VastaKustuta....but some blood is about to be SHEEED!!!!!
I agree with stitch while this may be a tough time it proves that hasbro sees use as something worthwhile and trolls see us as a threat we just have to keep the magic of friendship alive! >:D
VastaKustutaim this close to releasing my inner Lelolouch upon some trolls and god help them if i decide too as that part of me is very twisted and ruthless
VastaKustuta*sigh*
VastaKustutaAll of this copyright bull is giving me a headache, but I really do understand where Hasbro is coming from. Its not like they can rely solely on merch for profit, right?
If push comes to shove, I'll be willing to pay *shudder* for every episode via dvds, itunes, etc.
But that still doesn't solve the problem of international bronies. I agree with seth on that being the biggest issue.
I used the "send feed back" tool to tell Google that they need to fix their take down system to block troll be somehow verifying the source of the take down
VastaKustutaI said at the end that I don;t want trolls to b able to do the same thing to me.
every pony else should use the same reasoning and also send in a complaint
Hey.
VastaKustutaDon't insult communists by comparing them to Youtube.
its not Hasbro dmit stop thinking is friken Hasbro its the Niggest Crook Force(EVERY SINGLE TIME)
VastaKustutaThis happened to OC Remix a little bit back. If enough people tell youtube to restore his account because he did not violate any 3rd party copyright laws, they probably would do it. The only reason they wouldn't be able to restore his account is that he accepted donations, and even if he did, as long as it is not directly something from copyrighted material he will most likely be fine. So... hop to it bronies.
VastaKustutaWe didn't used to sling mud, wasn't that one of our things? Aren't we the passive aggressive pacifists of the internet?
VastaKustutaOh trolls, time to make some space on the moon.
VastaKustutaSeriously I hope this gets sorted soon, he doesn't deserve it.
Um, sorry but what the hell is NCF? I don't spend too much time on Youtube so I would be glad if somepony explain that to me xD.
VastaKustutaAutor on selle kommentaari eemaldanud.
VastaKustutain the words of a pony documentary i cant remember anymore XD "they made it on 4chan and if you can make it there you can make it anywhere" so fear not for the power of friendship shall overcome!
VastaKustutaFurther proof that there is such thing as "Too Big." And YouTube crossed that line a long time ago. YouTube has gotten too big for its own employees to handle, and they're stuck in a constantly losing battle between catering towards major copyright holders and fending off the trolls...wait no, Wendigos. I love that term, and I'm going to use it.
VastaKustutaThey can take away the Wendigos' means of abusing DMCA and limit the effectiveness of the report function. However, that would leave the door open for legal hassles from copyright holders, especially if it creates a gargantuan backlog of reports that they're too slow to handle.
On the flipside, they have the current system. It keeps them free from legal trouble, but now the door is wide open for the Wendigos to swoop in and ruin everyone's fun.
You cannot go half-way between either option, you cannot compromise on that. Either go fully one direction, or fully the other. Otherwise, they won't be doing enough on either end, allowing the problems of both options to manifest. Since YouTube would do well remaining a legal business venture (understatement of the year), they choose the route that protects the IP of copyright holders at an expense that gives a disproportionate quantity of power to the Wendigos.
YouTube has just gotten too big.
I'll make a point to update my bookmarks listing for all my musicians. After seeing this, I just can't depend on YouTube to keep them up. Hopefully they all maintain a Bandcamp or Soundcloud.
I facepalmed so hard, the resulting force shattered my bedroom window. Adolf Bush? Really? That is in no way, shape, or form a pedantic, pretentious, preconcieved troll attempt by people who missed the memo on the meaning of the phrase, "live and let live?"
VastaKustutaYoutube, I am disappoint.
I propose *dramatic silence* we send YouTube to the moon!
VastaKustutaDammit I don't want us to end up as 4chan.
VastaKustutaYOUTUBE, Y U BE LAZY?
VastaKustutaNCF is the Niggest Crook Force aka a bunch of troll accounts by WarvenCrusade(yes remember his username)to for whatever stupid reason get lots of bronys accounts taken down, he must be found, and sent to the moon with no trial
VastaKustutaThis isn't about Hasbro... this is about the trolls, making music doesn't break any copyright laws at all.
VastaKustutaWow, I feel sorry for Alex S, that must suck D:
VastaKustuta@DXLelouch Thanks! And wow... some people just need to get a life, seriously.
VastaKustutaI find it funny when my word filter changes profanity words to "Princess Celestia". Lol.
VastaKustutaHahaha, what the fuck.
VastaKustutaI know that YouTube is lazy, but "Adolf Bush"? Seriously? Seems totally legit.
Why do people do the whole false copyright claims thing anyway? It is easy as hell to do, and provides minimal lulz. Is it just that they are that dumb they can't be bother putting actual effort into their trolling?
VastaKustuta@DXLelouch I found it, and it is Warvan not Warven, but anyway, yes this guy is a dick...
VastaKustutaFrom Google forum:
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☻Niggest Crook Force☻
http://www.youtube.com/user/0123Megasavage
http://www.youtube.com/user/Warvancrusade
They're reporting videos to troll and are trying to close peoples accounts to be trolls.
They already got my main account and I tried filing a counter claim against the false copy right but the staff are too stupid to see that it's just trolls being idiots.
http://www.youtube.com/user/CelticBrony
They told me that I should expect more of my videos to be flagged down and they always report using the name Gabe Newell.
The YouTube Staff should do something about these guys but I doubt anything will happen.
@DXLeLouch, please. We're bronies. We're better than that.
VastaKustutaThat said, I'm going to look up this NCF and WarvenCrusade, see what they're up to.
But please, put away the torches and pitchforks. Our policy of Love and Tolerance has got us this far. Let's not turn away from that.
If WarvenCrusade and his bunch are really claiming responsibility for this, then it'll be easier for Youtube to put Alex S. back up. Enough letters sent showing proof, with sincere, calm words, and even Youtube can be moved.
It's a long shot, but it's better than resorting to douchebaggery.
Oh these parasprites are getting crafty. I mean "Adolf Bush"!? YouTube seriously needs to get it's act together.
VastaKustutai did say id unleash that side of me if it came to that but hopefully i wont have to, but honestly somepony needs to stop them its getting out of hand
VastaKustutaSeriously, Cereal/Seth (whoever posted the pic) I've been listening to this for the past two hours and I still have no idea what this is...
VastaKustuta...or why I'm still listening to it. :3
@Rottweiler
VastaKustutaAh, I see how it is. Sorry you lost your channel, man.
But here's the rub of the matter - by going after Warvan and NCF, you'll only make them want to troll us MORE. The more we retaliate, the more they'll know they're hurting us, and the more they'll do to hurt us.
Don't feed the trolls. Starve them out. Resist them silently with piles of peaceful messages to Youtube, and avoid discussing NCF in a derogatory manner.
They've cut themselves off at the knees anyway, publicly accepting blame for troll-flagging.
I'm going to love and tolerate the living hell out of those trolls.
VastaKustutaAdolf Bush is best Pony.
VastaKustuta@Wisdom Thumbs
VastaKustutaOh, It is not my channel since I don't upload MLP videos, I just found it on google forums, and that thread was about CelticBrony and how his channel got bucked up because of this guy(s).
Damn I forgot to add quotation markx :P, my bad.
Oh, and I forgot to mention. Flagging NCF is completely appropriate if they're breaking Youtube rules. But it's probably not the wisest thing to do, because parasprites thrive on retaliatory reactions from their targets.
VastaKustutathey dont deserve that Gummy just send em to the moon with no chance of an episode that brings them back
VastaKustutahow do we report the false flagging to youtube people?
VastaKustuta@Thegnap
VastaKustutaExactly!
We were born from the fiery crotchpit that is 4chan, and we came out just fine from that. Remember when most bronies were located on 4chan, and the mass bannings swept back and forth for weeks? If we survived that as an infantile fandom, then we can survive anything.
And the show's team supports us. We're set.
Why don't we just move to another video streaming site like DailyMotion? Or even better, make our own little Video website :D (which probably won't happen :( )
VastaKustutayoutube... facehoof at you.
VastaKustutalets hope he get his account back :/
This TRAGEDY, Is an act of Hatred directed at Our Community. Surely this false reporting is criminal, and may possibly constitute a hate crime? Bronies arent exactly a protected class however.. Like many minorities we are a target. This is bullying at its worst. I've reported the "gabe Newell" video for its bullying. I would strongly recommend Everypony do the same. These Slanderous serpents would enjoy our anger and rage, I certainly hope these Evil Evil people soon learn the consequences of their vicious ways.
VastaKustutaDamn parasprites...
VastaKustutaYoutube is operated mostly by robots, which are exploitable.
VastaKustutaJust stay out of it and work on finding alternatives/backups. Any attention given to these guys is just feeding their fire and interest.
to all of my fellow TRUE bronies out there... we've just got to ride this out... first ponyarchive's immature response and now this? even though i'm not one of the original 4chan veterans i know this rising conflict can easily be quenched if we continue standing by our profession of love and tolerance. the trolls and whiny selfish little kids will kick and scream and try and cause an uproar, but all we have to do is ignore those who wish to do us harm, and protect and stand by that which brings us gain. as conflict rears its ugly head resist the urge to stoop to the level of those who stand against us by lashing out. never forget... LOVE YOUR FELLOW BRONY, TOLERATE THOSE WHO OPPOSE US
VastaKustutaTwilight Sparkle - We've learned that friendship isn't always easy, but there's no doubt it's worth fighting for.
@Funky Majick
VastaKustutaIt is not a hate crime. However, it might be illegal. Filing a false Cease and Desist is perjury. Falsely flagging a video might not be, I don't know if you have to swear under penalty of perjury or not. It would be stupid for YouTube to not require it, as they are not legally obliged under the DMCA to do anything otherwise.
Well then we should all report him and get him removed from youtube then.
VastaKustutaEVERYBODY! Let's all settle down a little and start thinking things through for a sec. Yes it's annoying that people can get away with stuff like this but let's not fly off the handle . Please?
VastaKustutaLashing out against the trolls will not do much im sorry to say, but we have the potential to start something we probably don't want to be apart of.
I'm all for seeing them get what they deserve but let's cool the jets and put down the torches.
Things could get worse if we start throwing attacks on people.
Just my opinion though.
Newsflash; this happens all the time. And it is almost always resolved. The system is mostly automated and Youtube is smart enough that if you actually let them know that there's a problem then they'll reinstate your account with little hassle. Usually.
VastaKustutaHonestly, guys, it's not that big a deal.
in the meantime, you can find his videos here- http://www.youtube.com/user/SFRFaceplant?feature=mhee
VastaKustutaQuote from his channel.
VastaKustutaWarvancrusade (6 hours ago)http://www.youtube.com/djaelxs
R.I.P yiffbag brony failure
Seriously, like in Hearth's Warming Eve. We don't hate them, we just really really really really really really really really dislike them, which means we want to love and tolerate them, both youtube and the NFC.
Lastly, like every other pony said, don't feed the parasprites.
Why is everyone talking about Hasbro in this thread they have nothing to do with this particular thing.
VastaKustutaand Adolf Bush is not the name you should be pointing toward.
The name that REALLY gives this away more then any of them is Alex Saadeh
you know why? THAT'S ALEX-S REAL NAME
yes Trolls used His own name to report him for Copyright.
Youtube is that broken.
I'm legitably surprised that people have that much power over youtube
VastaKustutaWhen google took over youtube it went down hill from there. Google started to fill youtube up with adds and if you get partner you get paied to let them put adds up on your channle. New look changes that annoy us all and now this. This has been happening too many times because google let a computer do the work not real people. This is where I see the problem. The computer is not smart enough to know that these are fake names so it will only do what it is programed to do which is as I assume to take down a channle if there are too many bad reports on it. I however could be wrong with this I am only going off what I currently know
VastaKustutaAnd this is why I downloaded all of his stuff that I liked.
VastaKustutaI submitted the shot to art of trolling youtube needs all the ridcule they get for that
VastaKustutaSadly, the whole pony thing seems to be a very 'marmaite' issue (it's a British thing, advertising for it says "You either love it or hate it.")
VastaKustutaBut y'know, we'll make it through this, musicians, fanfic writers, artists, they'll keep doing what they do every day, making more and more wonderful pieces that just showcase what an amazing community we have.
Just gotta keep in mind that this'll pass in time, and until then, as everyone says, just love and tolerate and as Celestia is my witness, we'll make it through.. :)
I agree, stupid communists. But seriously, does youtube actually look into anything before taking things down?
VastaKustuta@Mojo
VastaKustutaWhat?
That's all kinds of messed up. They actually lurked around long enough to learn his full name, and then used it to report him?
That tells me two things.
1) somebody's obsessed.
2) it's going to be really easy to convince Youtube to put Alex S. back up.
@Overcast I agree with you, but sometimes they'll still bother more even you didn't do a thing. Guys, this is what I call....."Cyber Bullying."
VastaKustuta@Drake
VastaKustutaIf the trolls actually go through the legal process, YouTube basically has to take the videos down. They can put them back up if it turns out to be false, but until then they do because they would be held liable if it weren't.
Alex S., my support goes out to you. Even though you still have your songs intact, to have to re-upload them is a painful hassle, and I hope sincerely that Youtube gives them back.
VastaKustutaThinking of the recent bans that has popped up because of some trolls and the system that Google has imposed, I think it is better for a new website that hosts only pony videos.Safe from automated bans, no copyright holder would mind (maybe except Hasbro), and future trolls will be detected and denied of their fun. The only problem here is that someone needs to code the website, get a moderator staff, and make a new video something ( You know that thing don't you? The one that Youtube and other video hosting sites use. The one that enables us to watch videos. Sorry but I'm only 13 and I don't know the world for that...)
VastaKustutaLegal or not what these trolls are doing is wrong by any standard. Their hearts are cold and minds are torn. I dont know what could possibly drive someone to attack a group of people that represent Harmony, Love, and Tolerance. Maybe it is simply ignorance. But because of some comments our fellow bronies have made over there, I am sad. Someponies have said very nasty things that are offensive to a lot of ponies even we, the Bronies. Those words are Hateful. When we say such foolish things, the trolls win.
VastaKustutaThis is exactly the reason I want SOPA crushed. If things are so bad now that even the most obvious trolls can get videos taken down, how will it be in six months time when if anyone so much as posts a Squee on youtube it gets nuked? Christmas for the trolls. We're all with you Alex, sorry that the YouTube copyright infringement team has not one braincell between them.
VastaKustutaMy wishes are that everything will be alright when this is all over.
VastaKustutaI've dealt with way too much drama recently from this fandom.
Good night to all and be nice to either other. May everything workout throughout the month
@Wisdom Thumbs
VastaKustutain all liklihood his main channel will be back up in around a week, Youtube takes their goddamn time with counterclaims.
but as long as Youtube continues having such a broken system, this kind of thing will keep happening.
@ DJ PON3
VastaKustutaDon't get me wrong I don't want to just roll over, but people have already started "storming the castle" by charging in head first without a real plan. Commenting on Warvancrusade's channel is gonna start a whole lot more trolling then before.
@Freefall
VastaKustutaI wouldn't like that, would cut us Synchtube bronies out of our stuff.
Adolf Bush...
VastaKustutaseems legit
I hope all the other brony musicians see this as a warning. I guess this is our christmas present from the NFC.
VastaKustuta@Overcast
VastaKustutawe dont need to even comment. all we need to do is report him and get him removed from youtube.
Must. Love. And. Tolerate...
VastaKustuta@Kadreal
VastaKustutaThat's a disturbing thought... I doubt it, but i also don't put anything past those sick foals at PA. If they DO prompt legal action by hasbro against them over ponyarchive.eu, then it'll force Hasbro to basically lawyer up, and to prove to the court that they should judge in their favor, they will have no choice tut to actively protect the IP in question, and that WILL lead to Hasbro actively attacking pony content on YouTube.
PA needs to disappear quietly, or be taken down by an army of bronies at this point.
NOTHING good can come of Hasbro being driven to action to take down PA.
While your theory is disturbing, I still think it's just regular old paraspri... I mean trolls.
Sent some feedback to youtube regarding:
VastaKustuta"Please note that only valid legal inquiries will be investigated."
And explained a bit of the situation to them. I hope this turns around soon.
Autor on selle kommentaari eemaldanud.
VastaKustuta@ Anthony
VastaKustutaI'm not saying we should I'm saying some bronies already have which wasn't a good idea.
The guy is a douche canoe don't get me wrong. I would like to see him banned but in the end he can always make another
@Funky Majick
VastaKustutaHmmm, maybe its just people hat have a twisted sense of humor, just as simple as that.
But to be honest, there are other reasons for people hating this cartoon before actually watchin a single episode, I'm a mexican brony, and most people here are too "macho" to watch an apparently girly cartoon, which is stupid if you ask me, I mean, If somepony fears that his manhood or "macho" status will be destroyed just for watching a "girly" cartoon, then they are insecure about thier own manhood.
People tends to judge things without actually knowing it, so yes, you are right about your ignorance argument. But some people just take that to the extreme such as these NCF trolls.
Saludos desde México, peace.
EDIT: Reposted because of damn typos :P
I've found their home website. Be warned, it is offensive, but if you scroll to the very bottom, you can report abuse to niceboard.com. Cut off a branch and it regrows. Let's fall the entire tree!
VastaKustutahttp://anonymouswarvan.niceboard.org/
not if he turns out to be a little kid or something
VastaKustuta@Bill VII
VastaKustutaPretty much pointless IMO. Granted, we report his shithole of a page and it get deleted, but he will make it again.
Fighting against trolls eventually becomes a war between your wish to do the right thing and their desire to be just plain annoying, it is a battle to see who has the biggest d*ck, a pretty much pointless battle of willpower.
Okay, I looked up this warvan guy. Obviously, he's got some serious psychological problems if he's so obsessed with taking down bronies just because we like a certain cartoon. It's people like that that caused the Holocaust.
VastaKustuta@Rottweiler
VastaKustutaIt'll scatter any users of the site. Even if he re-boots it, it will be much smaller (And if they IP ban him, there's no rebooting at all!)
so what your saying is hes the reincarnation of Hitler and its ok to kill him? ok
VastaKustutagets out Deathnote*
@Bill VII
VastaKustutaDo not underestimate them, this group is full of sociopathic, society rejected, outcast trolls, believe me, I've seen and dealt with similar or even worse trolls, these guys wont give up easily, the more attention you give them the stronger they become.
People have actually made a pretty big mistake here in my opinion. Never give someone credit for something like this. All it will do is fuel his ego, make him think he's some "UB3R L33T TROLLZ LULZ" and keep him going. Would have been better to let him fade into obscurity, just pin the takedown up to "a troll".
VastaKustutaponyarchive.eu was taken down. I'm warming up my LOICs. Any pre-cancer /b/ronies with me?
VastaKustutaA minor setback on the road to victory.
VastaKustutaOkay, everybody, stop raging at Youtube and Hasbro for a bit, and use the thing in between your ears. You are ragin at the wrong people here.
VastaKustutaHasbro has obviously nothing to do with this particular takedown.
Youtube is legally obligated under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), to take down any video when an infringement of copyright is alleged. Youtube can not legally review or evaluate any such allegations, lest they loose their "safe harbor" status.
Safe harbor means that Youtube is not considered liable for the content third parties upload to their website, because Youtube claims to be a mere passive platform for users to upload to. If they started arbiting the content, they would no longer be passive, and would loose the safe harbor status.
The process under DMCA is roughly like this:
1. Someone files a takedown notice with Youtube.
2. Youtube is obligated to take the video down.
3. The person who uploaded the video can now file a counter-claim to Youtube.
4. Youtube passes the counter claim, along with contact information to the party who claimed copyright.
5. The alleged copyright holder can then use that information to sue the uploader for copyright infringement.
6. If the alleged copyright holder does not sue (because the copyright claim was bogus), the taken-down video is restored.
So, even if the copyright claim is competely laughable and obviously fake, Youtube must take the video down, or loose their legal protection wholesale.
What these trolls are doing, is abusing the DMCA-system. They are filing false copyright claims, to force Youtube to take down certain videos.
So, if you want to rage, rage at who deserve it: The trolls, and the american politicians, who instituted sweeping laws like DMCA, which give huge freedoms and vast abilites to companies.
And while you are raging at DMCA, ever heard of SOPA? SOPA makes DMCA look tame! So go rage at your congressmen and senators, as well.
@Insomnia
VastaKustutaYou sir win an internet
@Maquabra
VastaKustuta--Applies warpaint--
Okie Dokie Lokie
@Workbench Maniac:
VastaKustutaWell said, although it's probably not a good idea to directly rage at a congresman or a senator. A well written complaint is far more likely to receive a positive response. Imagine coming to work the next morning and finding 1000 letters full of personal attacks and hate on your desk/in your inbox.
No need for all this rage. He can always create a new channel, more if need be. Something tells me that his new channel will be a greater success than the old one. You can't keep a good brony down! :)
VastaKustutaOh for...
VastaKustutaSo annoying. And impotent.
As Robert F. Kennedy said "Don't get mad, get even".
VastaKustutaBronies, I'm afraid its high time we bring the fight with the trolls to them.
I have absolutely no idea what the trolls watch, but all I know right now is that I need some Ramen... NOW!!
SUrely he has a Soundcloud (or what have you)?
VastaKustuta@derp You can never be too careful of these confound haters...
VastaKustutaNO~! MY CUTIE MARK CRUSADERS DUBMIX~!!! :C
VastaKustuta@Workbench Maniac
VastaKustutaMai internets.... take them all. Other people are so stupid and are always quick to lay the blame on random people based on things they have read earlier...
I do think that Youtube has part of the blame and should actually research the Copyright claims however, as this one even had AlexS's own name in it. That is completely ridiculous.
This is not fair!
VastaKustutaRelax people. I'm sure DJ Alex will get everything restored in due order.
VastaKustuta@Insomnia:
VastaKustutaI was being facetious with the "rage" part. I fully agree with you. Everyone, go write your representatives.
And if your videos get taken down by trolls, file a counter-notice, to get your video restored.
Cereal-Velocity - Because he's too God-Damn lazy to realize that a good portion of us Bronies are Communist, and uses it as an insult without apparent knowledge of what one is.
VastaKustutaAnyways... Sad this guy got taken down, but he can always re-apply under a different user name and re-post his material right back up there. Minor inconvenience, AT BEST.
Do you folks really want to spend your time conversing with people that will throw hate your way no matter what you say, or do you want to do something produtive that makes you happy, like eating an apple or watching an episode of MLP? Speaking of which... there is probably a new MLP meme on the internet that I haven't seen yet! Got to check that one out!
VastaKustuta@ Dakatphish:
VastaKustutaEven if Youtube were to research the copyright claims, they could not do anything. Youtube is legally obligated to take down the video, even if they know the claim to be bogus.
That names... Are you fucking kidding me?
VastaKustutaGuys, we need our own YouTube ASAP
VastaKustuta@InsomniaI'd love to watch some episodes but Hasbro started killing sources of episodes for non-us bronies...
VastaKustuta@Maquabra: It's cool, as long as there are search engines, nothing will be obscured and unattainable for us bronies. (Not living in the US)
VastaKustuta@Maquabra
VastaKustutaAgain, video takedowns, as far as we know, are not from Hasbro, Hasbro has been tolerating YouTube uploads because it is publicity for them, so it is fine for them because it is the best source we non-US bronies (I'm from Mexico) have to watch the episodes.
this is the winter of out discontent. it will be cold. But......we are not here to give up! as one of the many who came from 4chan, i have lived through this already. we will overcome..please, with love and tolerance, and with these in perfect harmony, we will brave the cold and make it to spring! even if my page gets taken down http://www.youtube.com/user/MailMareDerpy?feature=mhee i will not give up. and with the fall of ponyarchive yesterday, i legitimately bought season 1 discounted last night. we are the brony!! we do not give up, e will never surrender!!!!
VastaKustutaExcuse me a moment, but something I just noticed... if the trolls are able to take Alex S's ENTIRE account down, then surely Youtube can take Warvancrusade's down as well? He's practically admitted that he's a troll.
VastaKustutaQuote from the Youtube help page: "Be aware that there may be adverse legal consequences in your country if you make a false or bad faith allegation of copyright infringement by using this process. Don't make false claims!"
Shutting down his account will only slow him down, but at least it'll wipe the smirk off his face. Plus if he does it enough, maybe they'll ban his whole IP. Maybe.
Guys, quit feeding the parasprites, before things get really out of control. It might already be too late tho...
VastaKustutahttp://www.youtube.com/user/WhyAreTheseTakenDown put the vids up on my acc, will delete when Alex asks and/or when he adds the vids to his channel
VastaKustuta@SpanglePonyWhat good would mobilizing a bunch of turtles....sorry tortoises do anyway?
VastaKustutaWhat is the collect noun for tortoise anyway?
@Zen Like Calm
VastaKustutaYes, tortoises is correct.
that sucks... I'd be really pissed
VastaKustutaDon't you dare abuse communists here! >:
VastaKustutaBut those trolls deserves some vacation in Gulag.
You know I thought Equestria was supposed to be relaxing but all this talk kinda contradicts that purpose.
VastaKustutaAdolf Bush? This is so stupid and saddening that I can only laugh. But not happy laughter.
VastaKustutaAdolf Bush!? These trolls get more obvious each year...
VastaKustutaWhat we need is a specialized pony video site, a "PonyTube", so people can post Pony videos all the time, when 4chan started banning people for posting ponies, Ponychan was born, we can do the same with YouTube by creating our own video site.
Sad that people would vandalize a site like that. (a bit beyond trolling to me)
VastaKustutaAlso, can't we do something? Like email youtube, or create a thread in their forums or such? Would be good for the community to remain positive and not have so many negative nellies.
Lastly, pretty disapointed about the communist comment. Because communism obviously has everything to do with poor representation of copyright laws.
Sucks that youtube s dumber than a bag of rocks. They know that their copyright system is broke, yet they prefer to spend their time working on new layouts that nobody wants instead because they don't want to actually work on what matters.
VastaKustutaPonies should have their own video hosting site. Screw youtube.
VastaKustutaAnd that guys, it's what's wrong with that whole DMCA, an enormous joke written by some old guys that understood nothing of digital distribution and were manipulated by the media companie's lobbyists.
VastaKustutaYou kill someone... you have the right to be considered innocent until proven guilty.
You make a remix based on some music (it being fair use and all that)... you are a MONSTER, you are considered guilty without due process, all your work is taken down, and YOU have to prove your innocence, possibly in a fight against a big corporation with a small army of lawyers.
And hold tight, because SOPA is coming.
NOT cool..
VastaKustutaHow dare you...
VastaKustutaHOW DARE YOU!
here we go again, and I thought there was someone at google who INVESTIGATED these so called clams, sheesh.
VastaKustutaThis is getting nuts... seriously
guys seriously this isnt even a big deal this happens all the time for various reasons yea this time its by some douche but think about it, this person has at most 20 followers (lurking him for a lttle while) while we have a fanbase of im obliged to say hundreds of thousands of members, plus Alex S could probably get the account up in a week and even if he doesnt trolls cant take away his musical talent as well as all the other creative geniuses in our fandom, just in our recent activity we raised 6,500 dollars for charity while trolls just took down one tiny youtube account (no offense to Alex) we can change the world and compared to us they are nothing! So keep strong this is at most a minor setback for Alex and even smaller setback for us bronies!
VastaKustutaThe trolls were able to use his own name to file a claim, because he filed a counter claim. You have to give your full name and contact info when you file a counter claim. Needless to say they could do more than troll with that info, which is why some people don't file them. And I have yet to hear of someone getting jailed for filing one of these false complaints.
VastaKustutaBut I wonder: If they can put down false info, why can't you put down a false name and address?
Youtube will never fix this problem. They don't have to and they're too busy pissing people off with stupid redesigns of the site. Saying something in the help forums won't do anything because Google doesn't pay attention and all you get are "top posters" refering you to youtube's copyright info or pretty much telling you "deal with it".
Might be time to go to a place like Blip TV which doesn't have that problem.
Oh and I just read SOPA won't be worked on again until congress comes back in January.
@Pixel Spark Good idea... Ponytube anyone?
VastaKustuta@Mr Mailbox making a ponytube is a bit more harder than making ponychan as ponychan is just a forum we would need a videoplayer etc although i have no doubt us bronies could do it just steal some programmers from the various pony projects like Mane 6. It'll be interesting to see what happens :3
VastaKustutaBtw if anyone is really serious and inspired through the series of events during recent hours and can round up some moderators and long term programmers my brother owns a webhosting business so if anyone is REALLY serious in making a ponytube send me an email: [email protected]
VastaKustutayoutube, trolls, prettymuch anypony hater is just gonna b**ch as us with there copyright dogs**t.
VastaKustuta(I blocked out the words for the sake of the people here :)
Those of you reaching for your pitchforks need to stop and think about what this community is really founded on. If the actions of a single corporate entity and a few trolls can bring us to our knees, well, I honestly don't know what to say, except maybe we need to re-watch the episode from this week. Love and tolerance.
VastaKustutaAll I know is that I've never been part of a fandom as strong as this one. We can't be defeated by the likes of a few trolls, and we won't. If I may paraphrase a line from one of my favorite works of media, just who the hay do you think we are?
VastaKustuta