• Update Posts: Dispelling the confusion

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    Idea axed!  Not-fanfiction tag added!

    If you don't want to see fanfiction, use this link!

    http://www.equestriadaily.com/search/label/Not-Fanfiction
    esmaspäev, 23. mai 2011 op
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    1. La Barata23. mai 2011, kell 13:23

      Where is the poll? I cannot find it to vote up the old way

      VastaKustuta
    2. Sethisto23. mai 2011, kell 13:24

      @LaBarata

      Should be on the left side bar! You might have to enable noscript or adblock or something.

      VastaKustuta
    3. Anonüümne23. mai 2011, kell 13:29

      I'b prefer stories to be grouped together, it's annoying seeing the same stories bumped up again and again (Especially when they stay front page for ages, which, annoyingly, always seems to be the case for "Fallout : Equestria").

      VastaKustuta
    4. no space23. mai 2011, kell 13:29

      I think either update system works fine. I just think it'd be a little easier to spot updates on stories I'm following if they had individual bumps, especially if it's an older one and the title isn't familiar. Although, we're obviously reaching a point where that will no longer be feasible.

      I say change the update procedure now. That way, by the time that becomes necessary, people will already be used to it and you won't have to scramble to switch over.

      VastaKustuta
    5. Sigil23. mai 2011, kell 13:38

      To be honest either system is fine by me. Though it would be a lot easier just to have a single update.

      VastaKustuta
    6. crazyredemu23. mai 2011, kell 13:40

      Even if he went with that bump in the night thing Fallout Equestria would be the one I would want to have by it's self cause it is awesome.

      VastaKustuta
    7. Purplefoxtail23. mai 2011, kell 13:41

      Id prefer this one (Yay, this one is winning so far!) Mainly because it gives each story its own time to shine :) There's only one or two fics I read (Fallout Equestria is one of them) but I still like seeing the new ones, or even the chapter additions on the main page :)

      VastaKustuta
    8. Anonüümne23. mai 2011, kell 13:43

      I think the nightly update would be the better, especially if you arranged it so the updating stories were all viewable, and the new ones had their own little spotlight so we are less likely to miss anything.

      VastaKustuta
    9. Purplefoxtail23. mai 2011, kell 13:45

      But I check back on EqD all the time...like within every 20 minutes. If there was only the nightly updates, then what? Only check back every 24 hours o,o

      Wait, if all these go on the post, what will be on the front page?

      VastaKustuta
    10. Anonüümne23. mai 2011, kell 13:50

      I think the nightly update posts aren't bad, but one suggestion I'd make is to either add descriptions or images to the fanfiction bit. Cause if you're following a dozen fanfics, their names can escape you, but images and descriptions are generally a lot more recognizable.

      VastaKustuta
    11. Anonüümne23. mai 2011, kell 13:50

      How about one update on the main page. Then have them individually bumped in the Fanfics Section.

      Or is that too much work?

      VastaKustuta
    12. hawkysu23. mai 2011, kell 13:56

      I think there is some confusion. New stories will still be on the front page (right Seth?), but stories that are only adding parts (Fallout: Equestria, Memories, EoA) will be dumped into a nightly post on the day they update. This should give newer fanfics more time in the spotlight (and thus gather more readers), while still notifying people when the old ones are updated.

      Or if people already understood that, then I really don't read comments well. :<

      VastaKustuta
    13. Kapten-N23. mai 2011, kell 13:59

      Why don't you say "everypony" like a normal brony? :P

      VastaKustuta
    14. kits23. mai 2011, kell 14:02

      I kinda wished my story had stayed on the front page longer. It was posted after I'd gone to bed and off the front page before I woke up. Even the front fanfic page.
      I've come to the conclusion that the only way to get a bazillion pages views is to write epic-length, multi-part stuff.

      It would be cool if you did a weekly/monthly compilation post of media and fanfics. Maybe have a once a week spotlight on highly rated submissions whose page views are low? I dunno. Just throwing it out there.

      VastaKustuta
    15. James Corck23. mai 2011, kell 14:02

      I really like this system a lot.

      As you said, it saves a lot of time and doesn't force us to go through a bunch of updated stories. Having them all in your daily updates is a welcoming change of air. Good idea!

      VastaKustuta
    16. drkHD23. mai 2011, kell 14:03

      I like it this way, but with a minor change: Bump 6-star fics only.

      VastaKustuta
    17. Anonüümne23. mai 2011, kell 14:04

      @Kits
      Sethisto, didn't you used to do a Weekly Wrap Up? Wouldn't that be a good thing to start again? *hinthint*

      VastaKustuta
    18. Pen Stroke23. mai 2011, kell 14:11

      I'm all for the daily update thing, but instead of making it a regular post make it something that stays at the top and you just add things as they are added. Kind of a index for all the posts for a given day.

      A table of contents for the day.

      VastaKustuta
    19. Anonüümne23. mai 2011, kell 14:11

      I'd like nightly updates. With the current way you see the same very long stories pop up all the time, which is pointless for the people who aren't following them.

      How about bumping the stories once they're completed? I'm sure there's people who wait for them to be finished then read them in one go.

      VastaKustuta
    20. kits23. mai 2011, kell 14:13

      I second bumping long fics once they're completed. That's when I prefer to read them!

      There are too many fics I started that seemed to have died off.

      VastaKustuta
    21. Sethisto23. mai 2011, kell 14:20

      @Thomas

      I don't want to scare off new potential bronies with pony terms!

      VastaKustuta
    22. Sethisto23. mai 2011, kell 14:20

      @Anonymous

      Hey

      This is a good idea

      This might work.

      VastaKustuta
    23. Anonüümne23. mai 2011, kell 14:21

      I like the new system, as long as updates can be commented on... and I think they can so no problem there.

      Bumping upon completion is a good idea too. That way ppl who just want to read the completed stories can find material easily.

      VastaKustuta
    24. Purplefoxtail23. mai 2011, kell 14:22

      Sethisto....there's a lot of Anonymous xD

      VastaKustuta
    25. Anonüümne23. mai 2011, kell 14:22

      Thirding BOC

      VastaKustuta
    26. lesserpoet23. mai 2011, kell 14:37

      I kind of see both sides, but I would tend to think that what we have going now works fairly well. The real problem with not bumping is that often times some of the longer stories, even those that are not "epic" per se, if they aren't bumped, might be less likely to gain new readers.

      Granted, it can get to be a bit much when certain stories show up night after night, but this could be remedied with an Idea that had come up earlier, a dedicated side bar for the truly "epic" longfics, that would get bumped in the sidebar, whereas fics that either get updated infrequently, or those with less than ten parts (that number can be played around with) would get bumped in the main feed....

      VastaKustuta
    27. Sharkman23. mai 2011, kell 14:37

      I kinda prefer the "bump" system for story updates, myself.

      VastaKustuta
    28. Anonüümne23. mai 2011, kell 14:40

      It's not that I don't like fanfiction, it just makes it hard to find anything else when it completely overwhelms everything else.

      Seriously, someone go make a better version of fanfiction.net.

      VastaKustuta
    29. Thattagen23. mai 2011, kell 14:41

      I can't decide, but it does seem to be easier to get into a story in progress if you see the entire story post bumped, rather than the title alone...

      VastaKustuta
    30. kriss198923. mai 2011, kell 14:46

      A sigular update is actually rather more convenient than having to revisit this page every couple hours on the off chance that something new I'm interested is up.

      VastaKustuta
    31. HolySparks23. mai 2011, kell 14:48

      I wish I could vote "whatever makes your job easier, Seth".

      VastaKustuta
    32. Acrianna23. mai 2011, kell 14:53

      I always get a bit sad when I see a new post on equestriadaily and then have to realize, it is only an update to a story I don't want to read or one that I have saved for later when the story will be complete. So yes, the normal updates of random stories do not deserve a bump in my opinion. A nightly post to collect all the updates will be more than enough; if it happens to contain one of the stories I read, I should be able to see it anyway.

      VastaKustuta
    33. Anonüümne23. mai 2011, kell 15:00

      I like the nightly update idea, then bumping it once the story is complete. At first I thought all new stories would be added at night, but now that I see that's not the case, I'm quite happy with it.

      VastaKustuta
    34. Fire.Esper23. mai 2011, kell 15:02

      I still vote separate-but-interlinked website for all this. Unfortunately, this still requires some exceptionally good coding that Blogger might not even support.

      Here's a mock-up of all this: http://www.ponychan.net/chan/fic/src/130618388765.jpg

      And ponychan thread that may be suitable for all that and this: http://www.ponychan.net/chan/fic/res/13877.html

      VastaKustuta
    35. Sethisto23. mai 2011, kell 15:13

      @Fire.Esper

      Working on something like that actually, though it's a learning process.

      VastaKustuta
    36. Fire.Esper23. mai 2011, kell 15:18

      @Sethisto You are a pony among men, then. Good luck!

      VastaKustuta
    37. Torrential Rains23. mai 2011, kell 15:21

      I think everyone is confusing what is already in place with what everypony wants.

      VastaKustuta
    38. Flashgen23. mai 2011, kell 15:24

      I think a nightly update system would be nice if you can find a way to mark stories with one/two letter tags.

      Ex: [N]=Normal, [Sh]=Ship, [Sa]=Sad.

      That way, people that don't recognize the story by name (or did not check the site when it first came out) can get an idea of its content.

      VastaKustuta
    39. Torrential Rains23. mai 2011, kell 15:27

      Perhaps a system in which the last update remains at the top of the page until the current one is uploaded? Or maybe a system in which stories are bumped to the top of a seperate list on the front page.

      [DAILY UPDATES]
      ________________

      [BUMPED STORIES]

      VastaKustuta
    40. Hayquill23. mai 2011, kell 15:30

      I think the nightly-update option will be friendlier to RSS/Atom users, because the updates will appear in a new, unread post.

      VastaKustuta
    41. Anonüümne23. mai 2011, kell 15:34

      I vastly prefer update posts because the RSS feed doesn't re-display bumped posts, so I always have to obsessively check the main page for new installments of e.g. Fallout.

      VastaKustuta
    42. Oleetar23. mai 2011, kell 15:35

      Whatever's easier for you, they're both fine. Fanfic is only annoying when there's a whole bunch of fics a day,

      VastaKustuta
    43. Anonüümne23. mai 2011, kell 15:35

      @Fire.Esper

      I'd offer to code one myself, but damn do I hate fanfiction. Sorry.

      VastaKustuta
    44. Purplefoxtail23. mai 2011, kell 16:09

      Torrential Rains got it right :D

      VastaKustuta
    45. Anonüümne23. mai 2011, kell 16:15

      The poll should have an option for nightly update + bump on completion

      that method rewards completion instead of update, making writers more willing to finish stories instead of letting them meander.

      VastaKustuta
    46. Anonüümne23. mai 2011, kell 16:19

      OOOO0h. I know! I know!! why not put the bumped stories list in FANFIC instead of HOME?!?

      VastaKustuta
    47. Laurence Brown23. mai 2011, kell 16:25

      As someone who likes to write multi-part stories, I personally endorse giving each story its own post on 'release', and then putting further updates in a nightly update post, and then bumping the story post once it is completed.

      I can sympathize with those who don't want to see an excessive amount of fanfiction entries on the blog. I personally try to get at least 2 or 3 chapters done before I submit them to this blog. Of course, that also leaves those who follow these stories wondering, 'is the next chapter out yet or not?' Knowing that I can submit each chapter as it gets done, without adding to the backlog of things waiting to be put up, is something I would really like to see.

      Also, an idea. If it has already been suggested, I apologize. An idea I have to make it so that people can view the site without seeing all the fanfiction would be to simply put a NF (Not Fanfiction) tag on everything that isn't fanfiction? That way, people who want to see this site w/o the fanfiction could just click on that, instead of on each separate category? (News, Comic, etc.) (shrugs) I honestly admit to not knowing how much work that would cause, but though I'd toss it out anyway.

      Regardless, many thanks to all of those who put their time into running this site. Your hard work does not go unappreciated!

      VastaKustuta
    48. La Barata23. mai 2011, kell 16:35

      @Sethisto

      Found it, thanks

      VastaKustuta
    49. Mbulsht23. mai 2011, kell 16:54

      @Laurence Brown

      basically you said everything i was going to say before I could even start typing it.

      VastaKustuta
    50. Sethisto23. mai 2011, kell 17:27

      @Laurence Brown

      Oh

      Genius....

      VastaKustuta
    51. Laurence Brown24. mai 2011, kell 04:53

      Come home from work, and find not only my story posted, but also an idea of mine landing on the genius portion of the bell curve (instead of the idiot part where the majority of my thoughts land).

      I shall sleep well tonight. :)

      VastaKustuta

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