• Petition for DVD Release

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    A petition has started for DVD release, though I still think you guys might be jumping the gun here a bit.. Season 2 isn't even out yet. You can find it below.

    *note* It's not mine to control, so I can't edit it in any way.


    DVD Release petition
    Saturday, March 12, 2011 op
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    1. AnonymousMarch 12, 2011 at 1:36 PM

      Ugh, why do they have to use a site that requires you to put your name and address stuff in it

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    2. AnonymousMarch 12, 2011 at 1:39 PM

      DVD? Call me when there's a blu-ray release.

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    3. AnonymousMarch 12, 2011 at 2:04 PM

      DVD petition?

      Blu Ray please.

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    4. AnonymousMarch 12, 2011 at 2:59 PM

      @pyritie
      I just put fake info in.

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    5. AnonymousMarch 12, 2011 at 3:17 PM

      I'm usually against internet petitions, but oppossed to "FREE TIBET" or "END WAR" this may actually influence someone (and benefit me) so I guess I'll sign.

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    6. ZarkanorfMarch 12, 2011 at 3:21 PM

      Signed, but as Sethisto said, maybe we're jumping the gun a bit, guys...

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    7. AnonymousMarch 12, 2011 at 3:31 PM

      Unless it's going to be a movie unto itself i don't see why they should do it. Why pay for a dvd when you can watch the episodes on youtube.

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    8. AnonymousMarch 12, 2011 at 4:06 PM

      @Anonymous
      ...To support the show, get a bunch of bonus features, enjoy the show in its highest quality and framerate (and with no awkward timing regarding when to cut the video footage for commercials), and to own a physical copy of it all with proper covert art and whatnot.

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    9. AnonymousMarch 12, 2011 at 5:14 PM

      @pyritie That's kinda necessary if one wants their petition to be taken seriously.

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    10. PacceMarch 12, 2011 at 6:02 PM

      Eh, I'm sure we'll get SOMETHING eventually.
      But I wanna show interest to make sure in hopes that we get Futurama quality stuff:
      Deleted Scenes
      Makings of
      Commentary on every episode.
      THE WORKS!

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    11. AnonymousMarch 12, 2011 at 6:21 PM

      @Pacce
      We'll most likely just get stuff like sing-a-longs.

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    12. Cray0nMarch 12, 2011 at 6:47 PM

      Why would we need it on DVD? It's 2011, physical media is dead and unnecessary. The extra features, if any, will most likely be something silly that appeals to kids. Seems kinda silly to me :/

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    13. Senn555March 12, 2011 at 7:06 PM

      @Cray0n

      Are you kidding me?

      I want a hard copy of something that I can hold in my hands, damnit! Not some substandard download...

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    14. Cray0nMarch 12, 2011 at 7:24 PM

      @Senn555 So burn the episodes to discs! I mean I'd buy just to have it, but I don't really see the point.

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    15. PacceMarch 12, 2011 at 7:27 PM

      @Anonymous
      I am okay with that.

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    16. AnonymousMarch 12, 2011 at 7:28 PM

      No.
      DVDs are so far outdated it's not even funny.
      Blurays or nothing.

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    17. Senn555March 12, 2011 at 7:35 PM

      @Cray0n

      I can't be arsed to burn my own DVDs, my time is valuable to me. :(

      I love the packaging that comes with DVDs/Blu-Rays too. Eh.

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    18. Cray0nMarch 12, 2011 at 7:52 PM

      @Senn555 If by that you mean you enjoy taking the case out of the plastic wrap then maximum brohoof.

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    19. AnonymousMarch 12, 2011 at 8:41 PM

      Someone should really add Blu-Rays to the list. This isn't 1997 anymore.

      Anyway, DVDs are a certainty; people are really getting upset over this for no reason. Hasbro will NEVER tell someone in an e-mail "oh yeah, we haven't announced this DVD set yet but it's coming soon." Customer service people who answer e-mails are NOT authorized to say these things; their response e-mails are copied and poasted from a list of generic, approved responses that reveal no information while simultaneously reassuring the customer they aren't being ignored.

      A DVD release is a certainty. A Blu-Ray release is not; nor is a soundtrack. And that's primarily where our efforts should be made.

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    20. AnonymousMarch 12, 2011 at 8:43 PM

      Physical media is far from dead. If you don't mind not actually owning the content you're paying out hard-earned money for, more power to you. If you dont' mind the fact your content can be revoked at the drop of a pin, and is limited to playback on specific devices, great for you. If you don't mind you can't even lend it out to someone, fine.

      Physical media is infinitely preferable to digital downloads. I assume you've seen the price for this show on the iTunes store? Despite the fact you aren't actually getting a physical product for your money, there isn't even a discount. If anything, it's MORE expensive than a Blu-Ray or DVD set would be. Digital distribution is a joke.

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    21. Cray0nMarch 12, 2011 at 9:04 PM

      @Anonymous >itunes
      Found your problem. But seriously, If you're paying for stuff that you can have for free, then physical media is obviously superior. However, my argument was that there is no reason (other than to say that you have a real copy) to go out and buy something you can get legally for free. So yeah, physical media is useless unless you prefer to buy your stuff. Itunes is retarded. Dead was a poor choice of words.

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    22. AnonymousMarch 12, 2011 at 9:21 PM

      @Cray0n

      Never bought a thing off iTunes in my life. But the fact remains, their digital copies are currently the best, cleanest, and most artifact free versions on the web. No, they aren't free; but why is it you're entitled to a show other people spent time and money working on... a show you supposedly love... for absolutely no cost? You can't get episodes of FiM free, legally. You can watch them on Hubworld in near-DVD quality (Hubworld rips can be burned to DVD relatively easily, and look rather good on an SDTV), or the HD uploads with their watermarks and digital artifacting (of course these uploads aren't exactly "legal").

      Also, while the 720p and 1080p HD cable uploads are decent, HD cable is still a bit of a joke and pales in comparison to what a Blu-Ray transfer will produce.

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    23. Taco WizMarch 12, 2011 at 9:24 PM

      Can we change it to Blu-Ray?

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    24. AnonymousMarch 12, 2011 at 9:54 PM

      Has even SpongeBob ever been on Blu-ray? (The movie doesn't count.)

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    25. Cray0nMarch 12, 2011 at 9:55 PM

      @Anonymous Well, if you want to get technical, you're right, but honestly in this day and age the internet has such a huge impact on the media that companies are making infinitely more money from web traffic, advertisements, etc., then they would from dvds or blu-rays. If you watch every episode via youtube, for example, hasbro is still going to make a profit one way or another. Besides, more fans = more exposure = more money. If there was no way to watch something other than waiting weeks to see it once, things wouldn't be nearly as popular as they would be otherwise. As for the quality, blu-ray ponies aren't that much of a step up from hd cable ponies. They're cartoons.

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    26. Cray0nMarch 12, 2011 at 9:58 PM

      @Anonymous Spongebob is for for children, it doesn't deserve to be on bluray. Mlp is for men.

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    27. AnonymousMarch 12, 2011 at 10:04 PM

      @Cray0n

      Online distribution isn't yet so big that it can take the place of physical media. If that were the case, DVDs would already be dying, and the companies behind Blu-Ray and HD-DVD would never have fought so hard for their format to come out on top. And it's not likely to be that big for a very long time to come.

      It's only in the US, primarily (and only in certain regions of the US, at that) where appropriately high-bandwidth connections exist that allow totally unrestricted access to this content.

      As for the benefit of Blu-Ray vs. HD cable for cartoons, there's still a considerable advantage. For one, the HD cable versions (all HD cable; cartoon or live-action) is plagued by relatively low-bitrates; and worst of all, digital artifacting. Animation on Blu-Ray benefits from the format in terms of colour accuracy and crispness, rather than raw detail. FiM on Blu-Ray would look worlds better than the HD cable versions.

      Heck, even the Hubworld.com episodes have better colour accuracy than Mentos' HD uploads, as they're cleaner, pure digital copies. Compare the same screenshot from a Hubworld download with one of the HD scenes at some point and you'll see what I mean. The HD copies are better for purely high-res viewing, but ironically they're inferior in terms of colour reproduction.

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    28. Cray0nMarch 12, 2011 at 10:20 PM

      @Anonymous Meh, I disagree. I live in a big city and dvds are a joke here. Everyone and their mom just watches stuff over the internet, but i can't speak for other places. While it might not be a grossly one sided victory, I still think that the internet is the major means of watching stuff, but I can understand physical media being bigger in other places. Also, i see what you mean about the color differences. It's a really big difference imo, but I get your point.

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    29. Cray0nMarch 12, 2011 at 10:21 PM

      @Cray0n not*

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    30. AnonymousMarch 12, 2011 at 10:33 PM

      @Cray0n

      I also live in a big city, and I do watch a lot of things online. It's great... for *casual* watching.

      But things I really like? Things I want to keep permanently? Physical media is still the way to go. With online content, you basically have two choices:

      1. Clean, pure high-quality copy; but infested with DRM and limited to play only on certain devices. (iTunes stores & the like)

      2. Decent, but noticeably imperfect illegal uploads that don't benefit the content creators (and if I really like something, as I do this show, I *want* to benefit the creators).

      Yes, online viewing is great; but only in certain situations. Your take on physical media is very region-biased, IMO. It's fine for you or I, who live in a dense urban area where the internet and wi-fi are ubiquitous; but this isn't the case for everyone.

      What's more, there are still many people who live in such areas who will still ultimately choose superior quality over ease and illegality; especially if they truly love what it is they're watching.

      Ultimately, Hasbro will make the show available for purchase in various formats. They already have it available on iTunes, for one. The existence of illegal uploads isn't enough to deter them from offering the show there, even if iTunes is a terrible way to sell video content. Similarly, the existence of those aforementioned illegal uploads isn't going to stop them for marketing the show on DVD, either. As I've said, DVDs are a certainty; almost no show is left behind these days in terms of a DVD release. The format is 14 years old.

      We need to push for a Blu-Ray release and a soundtrack release, to make sure Hasbro makes the right decision.

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    31. Cray0nMarch 12, 2011 at 10:48 PM

      @Anonymous Ah, but I do support the creators, and I do plan on buying the dvd when it drops. I couldn't care less about the quality tbh, but I do want to support the show. Like you said, it's more regional than anything, but in the name of practicality, most people (in the city, of course) will watch online. The majority of people don't care enough to go out and buy something they don't need. Hasbro knows this, which is why they choose to stream episodes on their website. Companies have to go where the money is, and as of late (again, in the city at least) that means digital media. Also a soundtrack would be fucking awesome

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    32. AnonymousMarch 12, 2011 at 11:10 PM

      @Cray0n

      All networks stream their shows online these days; that doesn't stop them from releasing it to optical formats when the season concludes. Streaming online after the episode airs makes a great deal of sense. The show is available on their own website, where they can impose as many additional advertisements as they wish; and it's already aired on TV, anyway.

      All shows get released to DVD, and many to Blu-Ray as well these days, once a season has finished. Online streaming of episodes doesn't change this.

      Also, Hubworld.com only make the last 2 or 3 episodes available; all past episodes are taken down. That indicates they intend to make the episodes available in other formats, down the road. Hubworld's online streaming is primarily for the benefit of people who missed a recent episode and want to catch up. Their intent isn't to create a permanent archive that people can go back to whenever they want. *That* is only possible with the illegal rips, at the moment.

      I find it ironic that people "couldn't care less about quality", though, and yet we have tons of people going out buying $2000 HDTVs, lol. Are they paperweights? If you're going to invest in the TV, invest in the quality media to go with it; otherwise the whole thing is pointless. A super-pricey TV being used to watch bootleg DVDs filmed with a camcorder off a theatre screen, for instance, is a disgrace to the television it's being displayed on.

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    33. Cray0nMarch 12, 2011 at 11:41 PM

      @Anonymous Well sure, they don't want people to only watch the show online, but I think that this is more because they want people to watch the show on air, and less because they want people to buy the dvd in 3 months. They also don't show the new episode until a newer episode is released. This is the way I see it: When people have box sets of TV shows, generally these people are true enthusiasts of the show. It's really not that often you see someone who barely even knows the names of the characters of the show having the complete box set of seasons 1-11. Why? Because they are more interested in watching they show, being entertained, and being done with it. This is why I don't think that DVDs are as big a deal as you say. And yes, it is silly for a person not to care about quality in the slightest and buy high end equipment, but not everyone wants to pay top dollar for something like a blu-ray player and a bunch of blu-rays and ONLY watch blu-rays. It's justifiable for someone to buy a nice TV and watch a crappy looking bootleg movie sometimes and watch a blu-ray another time. Just my opinion.

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    34. Cray0nMarch 12, 2011 at 11:46 PM

      @Anonymous *sigh* I wrote a long response but it didn't go through, so to sum it up: I don't think that the company's main goal is for the dvd to sell well at the end of a season, and I think he whole thing with taking down the episodes on the website and not posting the new episode right away has more to do with them wanting you to watch it on air. DVD box set owners are generally die-hard enthusiasts, and I don't think that a company wants its main audience to be a minority in their viewers.

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    35. AnonymousMarch 13, 2011 at 12:25 AM

      Years ago, DVD box set owners would've been mostly die-hard enthusiasts; when DVD box sets were actually expensive. I should know; I was one of the people buying them.

      Today, when you can get a full season of most shows for $25-$30 for the DVD; and perhaps $5-$20 more for the Blu-Ray, in my experience a lot more people tend to buy them than the true die-hards.

      Regardless, FiM certainly will get a DVD release. Obviously, Hasbro wants people to watch it as it airs. That's always the first goal with TV shows; when has that ever stopped a subsequent DVD release? DVD boxsets sell much better than you seem to think, biased as you are against physical media as a whole. If they were such a niche product, desired only by die-hard fans and collectors, they wouldn't be dirt-cheap or produced in such huge quantities.

      I have no idea why so many people freaked out over a copied and posted response from a customer relations grunt who clearly has no authority to announce a future product that has yet to be announced by the company.

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    36. Cray0nMarch 13, 2011 at 12:56 AM

      @Anonymous Okay, maybe you're right, but in my experience, dvd box-set owners are few and far between. A [spoiler]rarity[/spoiler], if you will.

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    37. AnonymousMarch 14, 2011 at 7:03 AM

      Blu Ray or nothing.
      Who really still sticks to DVDs? I'd rather keep my downloaded HD rips before getting DVDs...

      But I'm sure it will get a release (surely DVD, possibly even Blu Ray) once the first season is over and season 2 starts running, or so.

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    38. AnonymousMarch 14, 2011 at 8:26 PM

      @Cray0n
      Who says it has to be a box set? Kid-targeted shows tend to be released in single discs only.

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    39. Cray0nMarch 14, 2011 at 9:58 PM

      @Anonymous I just meant tv show season dvds in general.

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    40. AnonymousMarch 15, 2011 at 7:42 AM

      Hello

      DVD or Bluray (especially Bluray!) with subtitles in several languages ​​for the deaf!

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    41. JonathanWOPMarch 16, 2011 at 8:10 PM

      If we get a DVD release, chances are it's gonna be some crummy single-disc DVD with five episodes and no special features at all, just like every modern cartoon that isn't action or for adults. Sad, but I love this show so much that I'd buy that just to support it.

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    42. AnonymousMarch 18, 2011 at 9:26 PM

      @JonathanWOP
      In random or chronological order?

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    43. DraggleMarch 20, 2011 at 9:45 PM

      @Anonymous

      Outdated?! I buy DVDs. Everyone I know buys DVDs. I have a Blu-Ray player, but I see absolutely no advantage to it. If anything, it's just a stupid pain in the butt to work, and since it's the only one around here, I hardly use it anyway. I see very little difference between a DVD and a Blu-Ray. It was hard enough to get me to accept DVDs over VHS tapes and CDs over cassettes. Until Blu-Rays do something to impress me that they're better than DVDs (as CDs and DVDs convinced me that they were the superior formats, luckily before VHS and cassette tapes were phased out), then I shall stick with the DVD!

      As for owning physical media...the only advantage to owning it digitally is space saving. Which is actually a really great advantage. I suppose I'd be all right with buying things digitally if I could burn them onto my own discs, and make sure that I was getting everything with it (bonus features and all, yanno.) I use iTunes sparingly. It bugs me to own something ONLY on the computer and not be allowed to copy it onto something that feels safer, more secure, more permanent. I dunno. Computers feel simultaneously secure and risky. I can store loads of pics and vids and always know they're there...but if something were to go horribly wrong, or if the Internet were to suddenly glitch and disappear (like so many sites that have vanished)...just imagine everything of yours being lost. *.*

      ...Okay, yeah, anyway, I wrote them a nice note and they replied with the typical nice note saying they have no plan for a DVD at this time but they appreciate you being a fan and taking the time to write and that they value all of their fans and are aware of us and encourage us to keep watching for what comes next and bla dee blah, something along those lines. Quite nice of them to write back about the specific subject. ^^

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