I'm actually a bit surprised at the outcome of this. Since the success (and by success, I mean popular word of mouth) of Severing was enormous, I thought for sure that Grimdark would place higher on this poll.
Not to mention that the majority of "normal" stories are easily forgettable and tend to swirl together in my head.
"Not to mention that the majority of "normal" stories are easily forgettable and tend to swirl together in my head. "
Thats because there's just that many more normal stories than grimdark ones. There are well written ones and the well written ones are better than shipping or grimdark fics because they actually feel at place within the MLP world. I wasn't surprised by the poll at all. Most people just like stories that fill in the missing pieces of the parts of the show we don't or have yet to see.
Normal is... Normal. It's a pretty wide range of interests. Backstory, sidestory, alternate episode. So it's actually a few different groups.
Shipping is iffy. It fulfills a niche, and if it's not the niche you subscribe to, often it comes off bad just because you can't accept the paring that the plot is based around. It's easy to offend your target audience.
Grimdark is the hardest of all. If you do it right, most of your target audience is going to hate you personally. If you do it wrong it's just all degrees of fail. And so it's the hardest to find an audience that's happy with it, as the intent is to sadden the reader.
I'm surprised the Grimdark is higher then 10% personally. Everything else seems up to par.
"Grimdark is the hardest of all. If you do it right, most of your target audience is going to hate you personally. If you do it wrong it's just all degrees of fail."
What is the purpose of art? Wikipedia says "Art is the product or process of deliberately arranging items ... in a way that influences and affects one or more of the senses, emotions, and intellect."
Making people sad is still art. Making people angry, feel the need to take action, or altering the way they see the universe is still art.
It's hard to be emotionally attached to something that hurts you, and the most effective grimdark hurts.
Not for being out of the chorus,but I'd like to see more darker stories (even thow I really liked the ''normal'' ones too) or just more action oriented,just like the pilot.
I'm really surprised by this. I don't read much fanfiction, but most of what I hear is "grimdark grimdark grimdark grimdark grimdark!" I've always imagined the graph the other way around.
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I'm actually a bit surprised at the outcome of this. Since the success (and by success, I mean popular word of mouth) of Severing was enormous, I thought for sure that Grimdark would place higher on this poll.
ReplyDeleteNot to mention that the majority of "normal" stories are easily forgettable and tend to swirl together in my head.
"Not to mention that the majority of "normal" stories are easily forgettable and tend to swirl together in my head. "
ReplyDeleteThats because there's just that many more normal stories than grimdark ones. There are well written ones and the well written ones are better than shipping or grimdark fics because they actually feel at place within the MLP world. I wasn't surprised by the poll at all. Most people just like stories that fill in the missing pieces of the parts of the show we don't or have yet to see.
Normal is... Normal. It's a pretty wide range of interests. Backstory, sidestory, alternate episode. So it's actually a few different groups.
ReplyDeleteShipping is iffy. It fulfills a niche, and if it's not the niche you subscribe to, often it comes off bad just because you can't accept the paring that the plot is based around. It's easy to offend your target audience.
Grimdark is the hardest of all. If you do it right, most of your target audience is going to hate you personally. If you do it wrong it's just all degrees of fail. And so it's the hardest to find an audience that's happy with it, as the intent is to sadden the reader.
I'm surprised the Grimdark is higher then 10% personally. Everything else seems up to par.
Grimdark and ponies is kind of redundant.
ReplyDeleteI do not know, where to post this sort of suggestion. But can this fic get on the blog too?
ReplyDeletehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1VA181CbB1Fb-X7h50E9Zp8EWK95_nKCTB09Xje1HNuE/edit?hl=en&authkey=CLHwpb0G&pli=1#
@Anonymous
ReplyDelete"Grimdark is the hardest of all. If you do it right, most of your target audience is going to hate you personally. If you do it wrong it's just all degrees of fail."
Then why write grimdark?
@jack
ReplyDeleteAlready is dood
http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/01/story-twilight-helps-trixie.html
@Anonymous
ReplyDelete"Then why write grimdark?"
What is the purpose of art?
Wikipedia says "Art is the product or process of deliberately arranging items ... in a way that influences and affects one or more of the senses, emotions, and intellect."
Making people sad is still art. Making people angry, feel the need to take action, or altering the way they see the universe is still art.
It's hard to be emotionally attached to something that hurts you, and the most effective grimdark hurts.
Not for being out of the chorus,but I'd like to see more darker stories (even thow I really liked the ''normal'' ones too) or just more action oriented,just like the pilot.
ReplyDeletePs: what's the meaning of Grimdark?
@kimba150
ReplyDeleteGoogle, right over there: http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Grimdark
Grimdark is an adjective derived from the tagline for Warhammer 40k, which states that "In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war."
I'm really surprised by this. I don't read much fanfiction, but most of what I hear is "grimdark grimdark grimdark grimdark grimdark!" I've always imagined the graph the other way around.
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